Can't money buy good service from stunners?

[JJsushi]

HIGH THAIED said:

 

They are not looking for someone they can be 'comfortable with'. They are looking for someone who will pay them top dollar for their services. Thinking anything else is just plain silly.

 

HT

 

Well then call me silly! You gotta get out a little more with the young BG's. They are not all after the "top dollar" and I find most will choose to go or be happier with someone they are "more comfortable with" Maybe it is an age thing I don't know but I dress very young American witrh a hip hop flavor, therefore I don't dress like the average punter. This does make a difference with some BG's as they do comment on what I wear and some even ask me if they can have a shirt or a hat.

 

Women do like well dressed men and that goes for prostitutes too. I will always beat out the 55yr old punter in his boring khakis, sansa belt, polo shirt and topsiders because I wear the latest Timberlands, jeans, jerseys and other hip hop style clothing. I have style and chicks like that, even prostitutes in a go-go bar. Alot of these girls are young and they do want someone that is closer to their age group and fashion is one indicator of age.

 

I have had several girls turn down guaranteed higher payouts with established customers because they know I will take them to the latest discos(which means no Nana or any other P4P oriented discos) and we will party our asses off. Also they know they can bring some of their friends along too(as long as they are all dressed appropriately). I spend more on an evening out with them than they will get cash wise. They don't get top baht but they get a fair baht for their services. One girl made me stop at her room on our way to a disco so she could get a pair of sneakers and shirt to somewhat match my gear.

 

This also applies to the chicks on the higher end of the P4P ladder at places such as Orbitz where they assume every farang entering the joint has got money. Some of these chicks u don't even have to pay as they make serious money from sponsors(also many of them are not for sale just eye candy but they will hang out). They do want to go to the higher end discos and party(read get high)and the way you dress and style will definitely play into who u can pull.

 

I have had chicks rush back from a short time or break an appointment with a punter on the phone because they know they are going to have a great time with me hanging out. You gotta remember that these girls want to go out and have fun too not just run straight back to the hotel and fuck. Sometimes they will forgo the baht factor for the sanuk factor

 

Will I beat out a guy who will pay a girl 10,000bt for the night? I doubt it but I am sure I will beat out the boringly dressed middle aged guy who will pay 3000bt for a ST and I am only paying 2000bt for a LT.

 

These are Thai prostitutes we are talking about here not your garden variety prostitute. They are not always after the bloke who will pay top dollar.

 

Bottom line is if you are looking to simply bar fine and then fuck then what you wear does not matter; now if your looking to pull those so called stunners and take the experience beyond a simple short time baht fuck then having some style and dressing nice goes a long way.

[Guest lazyphil]

I agree, IME some bgs like to go out and party--in Patong it was Taipan and shark, IME the partying came before worrying about weaseling out as much money out of me. I think alot like the idea of having a bit of fun and not just having to go to the room and get sweated all over. Of course they're there for money, thats not rocket sience to figure out but they're not sex robots and like to have fun with a fun loving guy. If they get a fair wage I think some atleast, ime, will settle for this and some partying!

[Guest]

HIGH THAIED:

 

If what you've posted is your experience with the girls at rb2 or other gogos, so be it, but don't put that label on all punters and girls. I find the p4p girls come in many different flavors, as well as the punters.

 

I won't try to defend myself or put up an argument, thanks to the posts from cropduster, jjsushi and lazyphil.

 

My experience with the Thai p4p girls have been very similar to jjsushi's so far.

 

I totally agree with cardinalblue, rb2 girls are the worst when it comes to GFE but not all imo.

 

Rb2 gogo is probably the only club I go into when I'm in bkk, know 2 girls who work there well ( good friends ) we usually hit after hour disco's then cafe's. I stay away from Patpong, Nana, and Cowboy. I tend to stick to mp's, gc's, upper fl's and non p4p girls when ever opportunity knocks. :hubba:

 

 

[sabio]

FlyPapillon said:

Depends on who's opinion you're talking about here and could get you into trouble. You've promised 5000B if "you are satisfied". You're version of "satisfied" and the girl's you take back to the hotel might be VERY different.

 

Her version of "satisfied" might just be as long as she can make you cum. I can hear it now - "I make you cum, so you give me 5000B". Then you don't agree... and argument commences and all hell breaks out.

Interesting point. Of course I mean that the man decides if he is satisfied or not, but the scenario you raise is plausible. Any suggestions about a safer way to structure the deal? (to effect the same goal I stated: making friendly conduct and good service something in her best interest).

[sabio]

cardinalblue said:

A comment on your incentive scheme.

 

Actually back in the early to even late 90's, that is exactly how it was. Except the starting price in the equation was zero baht vs 3,000B....

 

You never paid up front, you never agreed on a price and after the experience you would say how much and she said "up to you"...

Exactly! whether it is B zero to 3000 or B 3000 to 8000, the key is the fact that the pay depends on the performance. Tips at restaurants in the US function this way, and it works very well. I guess that was the old system in LOS, and I am trying to devise a way to get the same performance incentive, even if it costs much more.

[sabio]

jjsushi said:

if your looking to pull those so called stunners and take the experience beyond a simple short time baht fuck then having some style and dressing nice goes a long way.

How about looking to pull a stunner and have her behave as nicely in the session as she did in the bar? Just friendly conduct and good service, not necessarily a memorable GFE.

[Guest]

Hi gogo,

 

>>>>>>If what you've posted is your experience with the girls at rb2 or other gogos, so be it, but don't put that label on all punters and girls.<<<<

 

I'm not. I'm posting in a general sense, of course. Sizing up a customer is an art form, that I think most girls get aquainted with rather quickly. Of course, a jai dee attitude, and if they know you already etc., will play into it, along with many other factors. My point is that with even having to size up only 30 guys a night, it has them evaluating nearly 1,000 guys a month. And many times their decision must come from apperance only, for them to decide to attach themselves to a particular punter. The early bird gets the worm, in many cases. It's not cool for them to muscle in on another girls territory, so they often have to act very fast, if someone appeals to them.

 

A punter walking into a go-go with $100 bills dropping out of his pockets, and dressed to the nines, will generaly be able to exstract the stunners within minutes. The non-stunners will often give leeway, as is already chartered territory for the 10's. There is a pecking order to some degree, from what I have seen. Just what I have witnessed, anyway.

 

HT

[cardinalblue]

While the money does not go directly into the girl's pocket, you still are picking up the entire tab for partying. I will guess if you bring the BG's friend or two along, you are looking at 4000B or more if going to high end discos. I will bet most of your selectees are big-time drinkers and probably smokers...

 

That is the beauty of thai BGs in that their composition is made of partiers, hard core, non-partiers, etc.

 

A dog is like their owner; wise BG selectees are an extension of the punter.

 

While one guy prefers to drop 6,000B for sexual service with a girl, another punter will also spend the same amount or even more but in escort/service way whether that means discos/drinking to a weekend/day trip to a nice dinner/movie out.

 

We all pay in one way or another based on what we term enjoyment and value.....

 

Cardinalblue

[Guest]

JJ says:

 

>>>I spend more on an evening out with them than they will get cash wise. <<<

 

CB says:

 

>>>>While the money does not go directly into the girl's pocket, you still are picking up the entire tab for partying.<<<

 

You'll pay for a stunner, one way or the other. And it won't be cheap, wether you pay them in cash up front, or pay for them for a big night on the town. You'll still wake up 1,000's of baht short of what you would have spent on a regular girl.

 

Slice it and dice it any way you like. A stunner is going to cost you, one way or the other. Are they generaly worth it? Not in my opinion. Because they get pulled so often, most are way hard core, in my experience. They get pulled every day, and thus tend to be cold machines, rather than interesting human beings. But......to each his own ::

 

HT

[JJsushi]

cardinalblue said:

 

I will bet most of your selectees are big-time drinkers and probably smokers...

 

 

Actually no. I know you are a stats man so I will provide some. I would say about 15% are what I would term "drinkers" and about 20% are what I would term pill poppers. The majority drink because the liquor is available and everyone else is drinking. Kind of mai sanuk to not drink when there is an open bottle and beers on the table. I drink for a buzz and not to get incapacitated and i would expect the same from my companions. As far as smoking goes, I would say that 50% smoke cigarettes and out of that 50% maybe 90% of them are social smokers like myself- only smoking while drinking and in a club or party environment.