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Hi,

 

Perhaps one of the most interesting words in the English language today, is the word fuck. Of all the English words beginning with f, fuck is the single one referred to as the "f-word". It's the one magical word. Just by it's sound it can describe pain, pleasure, hate and love.

 

In English, fuck folds into many grammatical categories. As a transital verb for instance, "John fucked Shirley". As an intransitive verb; "Shirley fucks". It's meaning is not always sexual, it can be used as an adjective such as; John's doing all the fucking work. As part of an adverb; "Shirley talks too fucking much", as an adverb enhancing an adjective; Shirley is fucking beautiful. As a noun; "I don't give a fuck". As part of a word: "abso-fucking-lutely" or "in-fucking-credible". Or as almost every word in a sentence: "fuck the fucking fuckers!".

 

Anyway........

 

But where does this word come from?

Yes, you can look it up on the net, but I ask you not to and play along :)

Read the 3 choices I give you and choose one, the one you think sounds closest to the truth. Thanks! (only 1 answer is correct)

 

A- Fuck comes from the word "frichen" which is the German word for "to strike". History resulted in a meeting between both nations, the English took over the word and wrong pronunciation resulted in the f-word.

 

B- Fuck comes from the old English word "to fuctate" (= to recover) which was used for people in a state of recovery from bad experiences. First syllable was used for the f-word and letter 'k' added for correct spelling.

 

C- Fuck comes from the Latin words "futhomassa arnack" which is used to express disappointment and literally means "What a badluck" Latin word was shortened for a new English 4-letter f-word.

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I voted 'A', not that I know it but in German language the equivalent verb is 'ficken'. I guess there must be some connection. :D

 

Btw, 'frichen'?? I've never heard this word. Must be German from the Middle Ages. ::

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Zaad said:

Hi,

 

Perhaps one of the most interesting words in the English language today, is the word fuck. Of all the English words beginning with f, fuck is the single one referred to as the "f-word". It's the one magical word. Just by it's sound it can describe pain, pleasure, hate and love.

 

In English, fuck folds into many grammatical categories. As a transital verb for instance, "John fucked Shirley". As an intransitive verb; "Shirley fucks". It's meaning is not always sexual, it can be used as an adjective such as; John's doing all the fucking work. As part of an adverb; "Shirley talks too fucking much", as an adverb enhancing an adjective; Shirley is fucking beautiful. As a noun; "I don't give a fuck". As part of a word: "abso-fucking-lutely" or "in-fucking-credible". Or as almost every word in a sentence: "fuck the fucking fuckers!".

 

Was this a George Carlin routine? Part of his "7 Forbidden Words"?

 

I do haave an mp3 on my 'puter that has a voice, similar to Alistair Crowley, doing a routine almost identical to the above, but a bit longer.

 

Fuck, it's fuckin' funny as fuck.

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I heard once it meant Fornication Under Consent of the King back in 'olde England' days where it was unlawful to fornicate but you could get a pass from the crown and not be arrested if caught. Not sure if its just a 'urban legend' or its true.

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heyhey, had kept this one from the old Delphi days:

 

 

 

 

 

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From: meateater (HILORNE) Sep-7 3:18 am

 

Found a little more detail that confirms my oroginal premise was

wrong :

" Popular etymologies agree, unfortunately incorrectly, that this is an

acronym meaning either Fornication Under Consent of the King or For

Unlawful

Carnal Knowledge. The latter usually accompanying a story about how

medieval

prisoners were forced to wear this word on their clothing.

Deriving the etymology of this word is difficult, as it has been under

a

taboo for most of its existence and citations are rare. The earliest

known

use, according to American Heritage and Lighter, predates 1500 and is

from a

poem written in a mix of Latin and English and entitled 'Flen flyys.'

The

relevant line reads:

 

"Non sunt in celi quia fuccant uuiuys of heli."

Translated:

"They [the monks] are not in heaven because they fuck the wives of Ely

[a

town near Cambridge]."

 

Fuccant is a pseudo-Latin word and in the original it is written in

cipher to

further disguise it.

Ayto mentions the word's use in 1278 as a personal name, John le

Fucker, but

fails to provide a citation. The earliest usage cite in the OED2 dates

from

1503 and is in the form 'fukkit.' The earliest cite of the current

spelling

is from 1535.

 

The word was not in common (published) use prior to the 1960s.

Shakespeare

did not use it, although he did hint at it for comic effect. In Merry

Wives

of Windsor (IV.i) he gives us the pun "focative case." In Henry V

(IV.iv),

the character Pistol threatens to "firk" a French soldier, a word

meaning "to

strike," but commonly used as an Elizabethan euphemism for fuck. In the

same

play (III.iv), Princess Katherine confuses the English words "foot" and

"gown" for the French "foutre" and "coun" (fuck and cunt, respectively)

with

comic results. Other poets did use the word, although it was far from

common.

Robert Burns, for example, used it in an unpublished manuscript.

 

The taboo was so strong that for 170 years, from 1795 to 1965, fuck did

not

appear in a single dictionary of the English language. In 1948, the

publishers of The Naked and the Dead persuaded Norman Mailer to use the

euphemism "fug" instead, resulting in Dorothy Parker's comment upon

meeting

Mailer: "So you're the man who can't spell fuck."

 

The root is undoubtedly Germanic, as it has cognates in other Northern

European languages: Middle Dutch fokken meaning to thrust, to copulate

with;

dialectical Norwegian fukka meaning to copulate; and dialectical

Swedish

focka meaning to strike, push, copulate, and fock meaning penis. Both

French

and Italian have similar words, foutre and fottere respectively. These

derive

from the Latin futuere.

 

While these cognates exist, they are probably not the source of fuck,

rather

they probably come from a common root. Most of the early known usages

of the

English word come from Scotland, leading some scholars to believe that

the

word comes from Scandinavian sources. Others disagree, believing that

the

number of northern citations reflects that the taboo was weaker in

Scotland

and the north, resulting in more surviving usages. The fact that there

are

citations, albeit fewer of them, from southern England dating from the

same

period seems to bear out this latter theory. "

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fuck me P127,some research by your goodself.

 

i little off topic but anyone know where the word WOGS comes from?.

for those of you who might not know this word,it is a word used by Whites in the UK to describe black people.

 

before anyone jumps on my back i am not bringing any racial content to the Board.

it is a word which has an interesting history.

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Zaad said: >>Perhaps one of the most interesting words in the English language <<

 

Agreed. And the most versatile.

 

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"You eye-fuckin me sweetheart?" - Army drill sergeant

 

"Nothin'. Absolutely fuckall nothing." - Hemingway

 

"She mind-fucked me." - Introspective punter on NP forum

 

"Feck you ya feckin cunt." - Irish proverb

 

"OH FUCK!" - Girl as I bumfucked her.

 

"You fucked-up fuck...Fuck you!" - W. Allen (from the film Deconstructing Harry)

 

"I not lie, I fuggit!" - bar girl

 

"Fuck off!" - My ex-gf

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Hi Zaad,

 

I consulted Encyclopædia Britannica and found out that the word is dutch/swedish! :neener:

 

Main Entry: 1 fuck

Pronunciation: 'f&k

Function: verb

Etymology: akin to Dutch fokken to breed (cattle), Swedish dialect fokka to copulate

Date: 1503

intransitive senses

1 usually obscene : COPULATE -- sometimes used in the present participle as a meaningless intensive

2 usually vulgar : MESS 3 -- used with with

transitive senses

1 usually obscene : to engage in coitus with -- sometimes used interjectionally with an object (as a personal or reflexive pronoun) to express anger, contempt, or disgust

2 usually vulgar : to deal with unfairly or harshly : CHEAT, SCREW

 

Merriam-Webster's Online Dictionary

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