chuckwoww Posted September 27, 2004 Author Report Share Posted September 27, 2004 Yes very strong connections with Fujian in Taiwan. Probably traceable to Southern Chinese influence in Kuomintang. Chiang Kai Shek was from Zeijian (Mao was from Hunan). And Chiang got his start at the Whampoa Military Academy, Guangdong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 27, 2004 Report Share Posted September 27, 2004 thanks for confirming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobbledonk Posted September 27, 2004 Report Share Posted September 27, 2004 The problem that I have with beating up on the Chinese is that it rapidly becomes a lot like the anti-Semitic arguments of the 1930's : they stick together and make lots of money, therefore they must be evil. Add their apparent disregard for good manners (by our standards) and you've got a barbarian horde set to sweep all before them .... I have been criticised for defending the Chinese on this board, but I am unwilling to condemn an entire nation for those aspects of their culture which we, in the West, find hard to accept. Their detractors frequently disregard their accomplishments while outlining their failings - how many nationalities could bear that kind of scrutiny. As you said, there a good people and complete arseholes in every society on earth. I also criticised the readily apparent chasm between the Chinese 'haves' and the Javanese 'have-nots' when I returned from Indonesia, but I have to ask if it would be any better if Indonesia were a socialist state ? I guess thats another post for another time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 27, 2004 Report Share Posted September 27, 2004 >>>The problem that I have with beating up on the Chinese is that it rapidly becomes a lot like the anti-Semitic arguments of the 1930's :<<< yeps, definately. many people forget that chinese were treated very similarily to jews for a long time by the west. i have a brilliant acount of the history of the overseas chinese (sorry, can't be arsed to go upstairs into the library to find out the title ) which tells the other side of the coin - the slavers going up and down the chinese cost, catching them, and sending them off to south america, etc. >>>but I have to ask if it would be any better if Indonesia were a socialist state ? I guess thats another post for another time <<< who knows? but we might actually find out one day. but as you said, another time... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spirit_of_town_hall Posted September 27, 2004 Report Share Posted September 27, 2004 Hi LP, I have lived with a chinese family in my youth. I concur with you.... Arrogant tight fisted wankers, they are not called the **** of asia for no reason! STH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 27, 2004 Report Share Posted September 27, 2004 hi, i have a very good chinese friend in malaisia. apart from sharing his incredible wealth of knowledge and teaching me, he has presented me with artifacts of considerable value in our common field of study. which i hold very dear, far beyond their monetary value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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