Age Difference..

[soongmak]

Hi. Actually, I 'got it' a long time ago. Do you? I'm not throwing them your way, but negative assumptions are a reality you have to deal with, soongmaak.

 

I don't have a problem with negative assumptions in general, HT. I am having a problem with YOU throwing baseless stereotypes regarding BGs on this board again and again. I guess from your post that you don't give a fuck that what you do IS insulting to me. Now where's that ignore button again?

[Guest lazyphil]

You simply must accept the reality of taking any 3rd (I dont use 3rd world to be negative btw) world thai girl out of her enviroment to the uk, us etc is hazardous (different outlooks, food issues, weather, home sickness etc etc), now from what i have *experienced* their are some tgs around here who are real slime who have never been in p4p, but i dont paint all non bgs with the same brush, the incedent with the girl who was advising my mrs to try for a bigger fish than me was non bg (100%), that could have really made me very anti my mrs socialising with any thai here, but one size doesn't fit all.

[pattaya127]

HT, love you, man, but you are turning around the pot.

 

Just state if you disagree or agree putting down a guy, or a story, posting/ed about a budding RS with a BG/FL or not, on this board, right out of the gate.

 

PS: That western love you talk about, you know yourself your own union had to be done according within a thai/eastern frame of mind. It's no disqualifier, but again, think many could de-construct your happiness as delusion.

[MaiLuk]

>>>You want to equate girls who work in the scene, as bad as sleazy whores from the streets of Europe and America. It simply is not true.<<<<<<<

 

No I don't. And never even tried. But I'm quite shocked that you concider prostitutes from America and Europe 'sleazy whores', but feel the need to distinguish their Thai sisters, as something else. What is up with all of that?

 

Hehe. Good one.

[MaiLuk]

>>Just state if you disagree or agree putting down a guy, or a story, posting/ed about a budding RS with a BG/FL or not, on this board, right out of the gate.<<

 

Well in defense of the HT i recall several times that he would advise a poster to either commit 100% to the girl or break it off because anything else will only hurt the girl in the long run. I did not always agree with that advice (too much emphasis on protecting the girl) but it is different from putting down a guy who wants to give it a go with a BG.

[HIGH_THAIED]

Hi Soongmak,

 

>>>>>>I do not have a problem with someone warning against a Rt with a prostitute. I really do believe it is a bad idea in general, especially starting from a customer based relationship AND especially for holiday goers who stayed only a couple of weeks and with no chance of any serious character judgement at all. I mean, it is all so obvious. There are a gazillion reasons why not to get involved with one, really.<<<<<<

 

Ok. Then we are on the same page. At least I can see that you can understand my point, and can see the large picture, in general. I do thank you, soogmak, for being open to that. I say that in all seriousness. It's good to know I'm discussing this with someone who had a reasonably open mind.

 

>>>>But why, why WHY(!!!) the constant negative stereotyping of BGs without a hint of self criticism? Why diss a whole group of people simply based on their profession? Are we really that insecure?<<<<

 

This is where I think you get me all wrong, and Mailuk can understand more of my point of view. Remember Mailuk and Junaree? Yea....it was a long time ago.

 

As I tried to say before, we are all products of our experiences there. And as such, all have varying views on the scene. You can let loose 3 different guys from the same home town in the West, and all 3 will come home with radically different takes on what they happened to run into.

 

First guy fell in love with first bargirl he met, second got a taste of Rohipnol and got taken for everything, and the third sold everything back home and moved there to open a bar in Pattaya.

 

I think is important to take into concideration where each of us have been, in relationship to cumulative experiences there. God knows, each is very different. Stepping off the plane at Don Muang can have you going in any one of a thousand directions.

 

Want to know my direction? I'm a product of falling in love with the first bargirl I met. And I fell really hard. I was unfortunate in that she was a truly great person. I took her to Chaing mai, and fell in love. Everything was perfect, except the fact I had to go back home, and leave her.

 

It was the worst 6 months of my life, until I could go back. But in those 6 months, I had to realize that it was a paid illusion that I had experienced, and the reality of it all, was that I had fallen in love with a girl who sold herself to anyone with a few baht, and was again on her back, before my plane even left the ground from Don Muang.

 

Am I cynical now? I don't think so. I just had to realize the reality of the situation. Could I have pulled her out? Maybe, but I was in no position to do so, at the time.

 

Do I think of any of them as horrible people? Of course not. I know many who have truly great hearts, and minds.

 

It's not them.........It's me. And a fear of being hurt. By not really being able to be sure. You are dealing with girls selling sex and love, for a living, to the highest bidder. They make a living selling an illusion. You can either take a chance and buy into it, or choose to look in other directions.

 

Not that that will guarantee you any success, either. But throwing your heart out into the prostitution world, will buy you a lot of heartache, most of the time.

 

And that is all I've ever tried to say here. It has nothing to do with putting the girl's down, or thinking of them as terrible human beings. For me, it all comes down to one thing......Self-preservation. And that has come from my own personal experience there.

 

I don't ever try to force my same mind-set on anyone else. Nobody is wrong here, in their anaylisis of their experiences. I saw it was not good from day one, for me to become involved with a prositute. But that is just me. Some might be able to handle better, and that is great. It truly is. But don't ever take that to mean I look down upon that.

 

My problem is, I love Bargirl's too much. I'm weak. I admit it freely. So don't tell me I look upon them with distain. In real, that could not be further from the truth. I fully understand what might bring many there, and love many of them to death, as actual human beings.

 

OK? Can you understand a little better now?

 

HT