Testosterone Shots

[stumpy]

Dear K11 Fan,

Andriol does not make it impossible to come...I had to smile when I read that one.

It also doesn't inflame your scrotum...

There are some great myths about steroids and their dangers.

Also I didn't say it was safe, merely that it was the safest steroid. If you are in any doubt read one of the books by Dan Duchaine, the greatest steroid guru that ever lived.

3 tablets is not a large dose, a 70 year old friend of mine takes that daily and as for the claim of roid rage, you would not experience that with andriol in that range.

Same body builder develop acne, here's why. Certain steroids in larger doses cause an increase in the secreations of skin oils. Coupled with heavy gym training and poor shower habits of some body builder leads to the build up of bacteria on the skin, blocked poors and spots.

Andriol will not (unless taken in very large doses, in excess of 20 tablets per day) cause acne.

Testosterone plays a big part in our everyday lives. Many black guys have better physiques and less body fat because they have more naturally occurring testosterone.

Steve, if you don't want to go in for shots give my suggestion a go and buy a strip of andriol next time you are in LOS.

[ November 27, 2001: Message edited by: stump_dog ]

[New Petchburi Pete]

Rage caused by testosterone is a myth. In the States, 'roid rage is often used as a defense in courtroom strategy. But, it has never convinced a jury that it is reasonable.

The vast majority of expert witnesses testify that there is no such thing. Euphoria

(at high dosages, yes), but rage is just not reality. When I say this I am only referring to testosterone.

[New Petchburi Pete]

I wanted to mention that high temperatures will lower testosterone levels! Now don't put ice cubes on your balls, just try to remain cool!

[stumpy]

Pete is right. Roid rage is unproven although I suspect it could exist. I am talking about pro-body builders stacking different a number of different testosterones at high doses.

Alcohol and certain drugs also lower natural testosterone levels. Exercis helps raise it.

[Guest]

Hi guys

I've been using pretty heavy doses of steroids for a while and will give U some input

About the roid rage,nerves are definetely more difficult to control when U're on high doses of steroids,one of the reasons I'd think twice before starting a cycle again.But a couple of andriol or provironum a day is not a high dose.

Chocolat Steve if it's just to improve Ur sex drive,a couple of provironum a day,or an injection of 100mg testoviron a month should be enough and offer very low side effects.(though I didn't always particulary like sex while using steroids,and after a little while the sex drive comes back to normal,I was 25 though,I've already read that a low dose of testosterone could help a man to face andropose)

If U're looking to increase Ur results in the gym,than more is probably needed and I strongly recommend U to search the net and get the more information possible(sorry I haven't checked for a couple of years and forgot the links but easy to come across them) .

Than problems like Bitch tits,Ur body stopping to produce testosterone,water retention need to be dealt with

About those HUGE skin rashes some steroid users get.Stump Dog do U think they're linked to unsufficient showers??I'm sure all the guys would rather use soap than accutane.Some people get pretty big rashes with rather small doses too,and I still carry scars on my shoulders from that time.

Anywas U can buy a strip of proviron or andriol and check without scare.

Luis

[Steve]

I'm interested in using it for getting physically fit and for sex.

Thanks all for your advice. I'm still considering all the options.

My friend doesn't appear to have acne problems and said he hasn't experienced any significant changes in skin or 'rage' but says he feels more robust. As far as sex, he just smiled and laughed. ???

[Guest]

k11fan:

Thanks for the info on the ashwaganda, I 0rdered some, got it and tried it.

really seems to work

good news is, I am now horny as all get out.

 

bad news, I'm still in farangland, and can"t get out. ( much)

seriously, it does seem to work, I'll stock up on it for my next trip.

I do seem to notice things I have tried over the years ( the ones that work of course) seem to work at first, but not after a while ( few weeks use)

seems if I "rotate" the various herbs/suppliments I have better luck than sticking with just one.

One I have found that does seem pretty good, its the combo called Cobra. has a good combo of ingredients like horny goat weed, yohimbe, and others.

I like to try things, so any more suggestions

( within reason) welcome.

like the girl said when asked if she was bisexual, she said shes trysexual. she'll try anything sexual once ( and more than that if she likes it)

[Guest]

Originally posted by stump_dog:

 

Andriol does not make it impossible to come...I had to smile when I read that one.

*i was reporting my own experiences. different people will have different reactions to any given thing.

first off, i was taking andriol capsules, i think they were about 100mg, 1 a day. could very well be a difference between the capsules and the tablets. in my case, i got rock hard erections, but at times couldn't orgasm, although it wasn't a total inability.*

It also doesn't inflame your scrotum...

*well, with the capsules, i, and a friend, both had our scrotums turn pink-red and feel a little like sun burn.*

3 tablets is not a large dose, a 70 year old friend of mine takes that daily and as for the claim of roid rage, you would not experience that with andriol in that range.

*again, probably the difference between tablets and the capsules. in my own case, i really developed a temper, found it easy to fly off the handle and hard to control once i got angry. this subsided once i stoped the andriol.*

[Guest]

Originally posted by pasathai:

Thanks for the info on the ashwaganda, I 0rdered some, got it and tried it. really seems to work.

*i was surprised, it worked a lot better than a lot of things you see advertised. i'm always leery of advertisements where every other sentence ends in an ! .*

good news is, I am now horny as all get out.

*a condition most men aspire to.*

 

bad news, I'm still in farangland, and can"t get out. ( much)

*my condolences, i know how it is to be in a vaginal desert. relocation is the only answer.*

seriously, it does seem to work, I'll stock up on it for my next trip.

*you might try not using it until just before your trip, so the effect will be stronger. anyway, no need to waste it, with no relief available.*

I do seem to notice things I have tried over the years ( the ones that work of course) seem to work at first, but not after a while ( few weeks use)

*this is because the body gets accustomed to supplements, and tends to adjust itself to the level it feels is natural, a process called homostasis. at that point, you either have to accept feeling less of an effect, or take ever increasing doses - the danger with steroids, drugs and alcohol. many people lack the discilpline to just back off and do without the sensation they've come to like, and get in serious trouble.*

seems if I "rotate" the various herbs/suppliments I have better luck than sticking with just one.

*that's the way, most things are six weeks on, six weeks off. if you can find unrelated things that give the same effect, you might be able to maintain an increased level of performance. the best is just to 'change off' and keep the body guessing, rather than to allow it to become accustomed to the same thing all the time. humans are very adaptable, and by forcing your body to adapt to ever changing challenges, it gets stronger. remember that you can't stay at peak performance, you hit a 'plateau'. going up and down in weights will give a much better overall result. don't over train, doing too much has a negative effect, give your body at least 48 hours between workouts. slow steady progress is the best. vary the exercises and amount of weight you use, take periods off from using dick stiffeners. the problem with a lot of testosterone supplements, and the androstendione and androstendiol supplements, is that you lose muscle mass you gained by using them when you stop using them. supposedly, this doesn't happen when you use the 19-nor pre-cursors. i really like the nutrition express catalog because it has articles in it explaining about the different products. amoung the precursors, i liked the 'nor xtreme' the best, one capsule had 200mg, more than enough, one a day*

One I have found that does seem pretty good, its the combo called Cobra. has a good combo of ingredients like horny goat weed, yohimbe, and others.

*i passed on this because it contains yohimbe, which i read somewhere is hard on the liver, something i try to avoid. pinnacle has a horny goat weed with macuna pura and some other stuff, and was the only one without yohimbe. i didn't find a pure 'maca' product at either nutrition express or vitamin shoppe, but there are some you can find by searching 'maca' on yahoo. i tried it, (horny goat weed) couldn't really tell a difference. making your dick stand up is one thing, making you horny is another. arousal is a brain thing, and nothing makes a man horny like an attractive, enthusiastic partner. which, as we all know, i find at km11 better than anywhere else. but, that's just me.*

I like to try things, so any more suggestions

( within reason) welcome.

*well, since you asked:

body building is equal parts exercise, nutrition and supplements. none alone will give gonzo results, and nothing happens overnight. it takes months, if not years, to get to where you want to be. and even so, some people are genitically predispositioned to get huge and buffed, and others have to content themselves with just being in good shape and good health... which aren't such bad consolation prizes.

further, get the 'from the earth' multiple vitamins (specify without iron, men don't need iron supplements, it accumulates and can cause heart problems... geritol commercials not withstanding) from www.vitaminshoppe.com . i find one a day is sufficient, but you could always try taking one tablet every 8 hours. these are the best multi vitamins i've found. try vanadyl sulfate 10mg, one a day, inexpensive. try alpha lipoic acid, 200mg a day. both of these build muscle. i'm getting really good results from 2 capsules a day of cordyceps, from www.fungi.com , it takes two weeks to really take effect, a month to show, but you start feeling pumped. get the books '8 weeks to optimum health' and 'eating well for optimum health' by dr andrew weil, available from amazon.com and barnes and noble, full of good information, pick and choose what you want to do. eat six small meals a day, every three hours. i eat a blender shake with blueberries (anti-oxidents)and papaya (digestive enzymes), oatmeal and psyllium husks (these two to clean out the colon) and twin labs pc55 phosphytidal choline (to clean out the blood vessels), a table spoon of non sweetened low fat live culture yoghurt (not the sweetened kind with the fruit on the bottom) for the beneficial bacteria, at 7:30am, same at 10:30am, with an apple and walnuts, except on exercise days, when i have 100 grams of salmon instead of the shake, a thick slice of multigrain bread with extra virgin olive oil on it at 1:30pm, an orange at 4:30pm, steamed vegetables with a blended sauce of extra virgin olive oil, yoghurt, chopped fresh garlic, and mustard, with an apple and walnuts at 7:30pm, and another shake at 10:30pm. i lost 27 pounds in four months like this. if you want more protein, use one of the powders from nutrition express 'fitness labs' brand, or if you want to economise, use 100 grams of soft tofu in each shake. although dr weil says we get too much protein, 10% of intake is enough, and you'll lose weight quicker without a lot of protein. forget about butter, cheese, cream, ice cream.

diets are for life, not just until you acheive your goal, and then get back to where you started. it takes discilpine not to eat the things you crave. after a few weeks the cravings diminish. one good way to stay ojn a diet is to go off it once a week, for one meal, within reason.

so, try these things, after awhile contact me at km11fan@hotmail.com, maybe there are some other things you can try as you go along.

[New Petchburi Pete]

K11 Fan,

Hopefully to resolve this discussion within the safest limits of the initiator of the topic, let me say this; first, if someone is seeking this information, the best place to start is at a qualified physician's office.

Secondly,with respect to the state of one being horny, it is abnormal for this to be an "aspiration." It is rather, part of the expected "human condition." You are partly right; if one is concerned about this topic, then "relocation" plays a huge factor.

Also, the "six weeks on, six weeks off" approach is not body or emotionally healthy.

With testosterone (the purest, natural anabolic steroid) daily, unit dosing is readidly available, without the associated risk factors of the 'precursors.'

As an intersting sidelight, the package insert from Pfizer regarding Viagra, states that sexual desire in necessary for effectiveness of the drug! Do we have to talk about relocation any more? ... no such

problem in LOS ... do it! Start planning!!!