Old Hippie Posted September 18, 2006 Report Share Posted September 18, 2006 CW, Yes, I think you're right...er sort of. I frequently take pictures of people doing stuff, often with out asking. If they see me, I may ask them if it is o.k. I did go to a Temple to take pictures of Monks doing the ritual Tattooing. The guy who drove me there (an older Thai man) did ask the Monk if it was o.k. for me to watch and take photos. The answer was yes. It's a tough call as to photographing people in public, but there is also a line, and when people cross that line, it is damned right intrusive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuckwoww Posted September 18, 2006 Report Share Posted September 18, 2006 I don't know if you been to Luang Prabang. Quiet place on the river, religious center, or it was. Now it's definitely on the tourist map. Hard to know what goes through the minds of those monks. A lot of them seem to have no trouble reconciling the teachings of Buddha with getting rich. And it does cost money to decorate temples. Strange. I think the weirdist bunch I ran into was in Taton, near Fang. They all wanted to go to America and teach Buddhism. Good money in it they said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Hippie Posted September 18, 2006 Report Share Posted September 18, 2006 Well, yeah, been to LP about 5 years ago, nice. I liked Savanakett as well. Laos is a nice place, buit I do find it sort of an odd tourist place...still not sure what brought me up there... But I liked it, and have been back since. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuckwoww Posted September 18, 2006 Report Share Posted September 18, 2006 It's the river I think....it just flows, timeless, very relaxing....of course the Chinese will probably fuck it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bust Posted September 18, 2006 Report Share Posted September 18, 2006 soiarrai.....I am currently reading a book "From The Land Of The Green Ghost" by Pascal Koo Thwe. It's about a hill tribesman from a tiny Padaung tribe who became an English Literature student in Mandalay and ends up escaping and studying at Cambridge University. Fascinating story if you want to learn a bit about their history. Keep in mind too that this is sometimes the safest place for these people. Their is currently a junta offensive in Karen State. I was up there in the camps last trip. Some pretty horrible stuff going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soiarrai Posted September 19, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 19, 2006 Thanks Bust. I have just ordered the title from amazon, and i look forward to the read. I had also read about the atrocities being committed in Karen state recently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khun Hunter Posted September 23, 2006 Report Share Posted September 23, 2006 The American Indian, is not exploited, unless it is self exploitation. The tribal shows, souveigners, etc are all produced by the tribes themselves, often on tribal lands; which are considered by law to be foreign soil. The American Indian, of which I am one, are provided with yearly stipends, free college education, subsidized medical benefits, and grants or loans to open and operate businesses and are free of may of the taxes that other American citizens must pay. In addition, unlike other the American citizens, Indian tribes are given licenses to open and operate casinos, the profits of which are kept entirely within the tribe and distributed according to tribal laws to members of the tribe. In conclusion, please to not speak about matters that you are not informed of, and or condesend to us or use 19th logic or stories, it only makes you look foolish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cardinalblue Posted September 23, 2006 Report Share Posted September 23, 2006 KH, Nice write-up! I have always felt that the american indians got a bad deal through our history of defining reservationss and confining them to these areas with perks and benefits not to leave.. This isolationism by design prevented integration into mainstrem society which hindered growth and production.. How we have handled the american indian initially and then over time is a black mark in our culture. I have always thought of the american indian in an analogy of a grown adult treated as a dependent child confined to their bedroom at home. Giving them fish but never teaching them how to fish literally (exempted from normal fishing requirements at least in upper northern california) and figureatively speaking...Is that a fair assessment? CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest lazyphil Posted September 23, 2006 Report Share Posted September 23, 2006 CB for what my pov is to you that analogy is spot on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torneyboy Posted September 23, 2006 Report Share Posted September 23, 2006 "Already, busloads of foreigners on "eco-tourism" trips pile into the remote villages every day to pose beside the Padaung "giraffe women", so-called for their elongated necks propped up on layers of brass coils." It's been going on for years. The women are trucked in from Burma for the show. Big money maker for the Padaung (from Ka-Kaung, 'people who live on the hilltops') and the tourist guides. And very little for the women... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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