Flashermac Posted April 7, 2007 Report Share Posted April 7, 2007 Think? Ahead? Nah. They are the same idiots who pop into groups and try to start flame wars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashermac Posted April 7, 2007 Report Share Posted April 7, 2007 p.s. The pratts just might succeed in pissing off enough Thais in positions of authority to make it harder for the rest of us to work here, live here, visit here etc. On that basis I would be quite happy to beat the shite out of the posters with a 4 by 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thalenoi Posted April 7, 2007 Report Share Posted April 7, 2007 If some videos are a disgrace to Thailand it should be noticed that blocking a site for such reasons is an even bigger disgrace to Thailand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuckwoww Posted April 7, 2007 Report Share Posted April 7, 2007 If some videos are a disgrace to Thailand it should be noticed that blocking a site for such reasons is an even bigger disgrace to Thailand Only to some people outside Thailand who can't see what's really going on.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashermac Posted April 7, 2007 Report Share Posted April 7, 2007 Mr T conducted his "war on drugs" with thousands of extra-legal killings. He also pissed off the Islamic world with Tak Bai etc, virtually reviving the violence in the far south. Yet no anti-Thaksin videos appeared on Youtube. Now some folks are up in arms because an alcoholic Swiss wanker got sentenced to prison? Interesting priorities people have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elef Posted April 7, 2007 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2007 Bangkok Post Today Link NET CENSORSHIP YouTube to help block web access to pages insulting King BANGKOK POST/REUTERS Video-sharing website YouTube will help Thailand block access to pages that contain clips offensive to His Majesty the King, Information and Communications Technology Minister Sitthichai Pookaiyaudom said yesterday. The idea came in a phone call with a California-based liaison officer for Google Inc, which owns YouTube. The website had refused to pull a clip insulting His Majesty the King, which led the government on Thursday to block access to YouTube entirely. ''He said pulling out those clips would not be an effective way to stop the damage, since users could re-post them again,'' said Mr Sitthichai, referring to Google officer Andrew McLaughlin. ''He said a more effective way would be to block certain pages, so they cannot be seen in Thailand,'' he said. ''It will be a few days before we lift the ban on the entire site.'' On Thursday, a 44-second video clip, which showed doctored, abhorrent and grainy pictures of the King, was removed from YouTube by its creator, ''paddidda'', after the government imposed the ban. Before the clip was removed, Mr Sitthichai accused YouTube of being heartless and culturally insensitive. Despite the removal of the clip, which has outraged the public and created a lively debate on freedom of speech versus respect for cultural sensitivity, two more clips mocking the monarch appeared on YouTube yesterday. One was posted by ''thaifreespeech''. Within a few hours, the clip had been viewed 13,660 times and attracted more than 200 comments. Posters urged YouTube to withdraw it from the site, www.youtube.com. Criticising or offending royalty is a serious crime. Last week, 57-year-old Swiss national Oliver Jufer was sentenced to 10 years in jail for spraying graffiti on pictures of His Majesty the King, a rare prison term for a foreigner. But the generals who ousted Thaksin Shinawatra in last year's coup have also been accused of using the lese majeste laws to stifle criticism of themselves or their actions. Several websites calling into question the merits of the September 19 coup have been shut down by the government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fidel Posted April 7, 2007 Report Share Posted April 7, 2007 Jesus, [sorry, thought it better to remove this bit - KS] Looks like this attempt at censorship has had the reverse of the desired effect. I certainly wouldn't have known there were videos offensive to the Thai royal family on youtube if they hadn't blocked the site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
limbo Posted April 7, 2007 Report Share Posted April 7, 2007 YouTube offers to 'educate' Thai authorities about site YouTube said Saturday it has offered to "educate" Thai authorities about how the popular video-sharing service works in the hope of ending a ban on the site over videos mocking Thailand's revered king. The company had spoken with Thai communications minister Sitthichai Pookaiyaudoom about the ban, which was imposed Wednesday after a user posted a video deemed here as offensive to King Bhumibol Adulyadej, YouTube spokeswoman Julie Supan said. "Minister Sitthichai reported that his government is inflexible on the blocking of individual objectionable videos, and that the ministry's technical people have difficulty understanding how to block individual videos," she said in an email to AFP. "While we will not take down videos that do not violate our policies, and will not assist in implementing censorship, we have offered to educate the Thai ministry about YouTube and how it works," she said. "It's up to the Thailand government to decide whether to block specific videos, but we would rather that than have them block the entire site," she added. Four more videos have been posted to the site mocking the king, but also taking aim at Thailand's strict lese majeste law, which is rigorously enforced against anyone deemed to have offended the royal family. The site, accessed from Bangkok through a foreign server, now has seven clips mocking the monarch. Although the original clip has been removed by the user who created it, the others are similar, often showing pictures of the king next to images of feet -- seen as deeply offensive in Thailand. [color:red]The ban on YouTube has sparked a fierce debate over freedom of speech on the Internet, and on Thailand's effort to enforce a law that dates from the time of absolute monarchy more than 75 years ago in the era of a modern global media.[/color] Thailand's king, almost universally adored by Thais, is the world's longest-reigning monarch, and [color:red]one of the few who is still protected by tough laws that prohibit any insult against the royal family[/color]. The ban came a week after Thailand jailed a Swiss man for 10 years for insulting the king by vandalising his portraits during a drunken spree. Agence France Presse The Nation 07/04/07 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
limbo Posted April 7, 2007 Report Share Posted April 7, 2007 We will not assist in implementing censorship : YouTube YouTube said Saturday it will not withdraw the controversial videos that do not violate its policies and that not insist in conducting censorship. "While we will not take down videos that do not violate our policies, and will not assist in implementing censorship, we have offered to educate the Thai ministry about YouTube and how it works, YouTube spokeswoman Julie Supan said. She said YouTube has offered to "educate" Thai authorities about how the popular video-sharing service works in the hope of ending a ban on the site over videos mocking Thailand's revered king. The company had spoken with Thai communications minister Sitthichai Pookaiyaudoom about the ban, which was imposed Wednesday after a user posted a video deemed here as offensive to King Bhumibol Adulyadej, she said in an email to AFP. [color:red] "Minister Sitthichai reported that his government is inflexible on the blocking of individual objectionable videos, and that the ministry's technical people have difficulty understanding how to block individual videos."[/color] Agence France Presse The Nation 07/04/07 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gadfly Posted April 7, 2007 Report Share Posted April 7, 2007 Looks like this attempt at censorship has had the reverse of the desired effect. I certainly wouldn't have known there were videos offensive to the Thai royal family on youtube if they hadn't blocked the site. The 'law of unintended consequences' isn't well understood here. Plenty of examples available to prove this. Making this all look even sillier, the ICT Ministry apparantly employs people who are almost as as bad as me when it comes to IT technology. YouTube says it is possible to block individual clips on YouTube, and YouTube is offering to show the ICT Ministry how to do this (since they don't know how) so they don't have to block the entire site. YouTube Offers Technical Assist to ICT Ministry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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