Fidel Posted April 7, 2007 Report Share Posted April 7, 2007 Hi KS. In hindsight I guess you were right to edit those sentences out of my post. Let's just say that the newer videos are highly, highly offensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashermac Posted April 7, 2007 Report Share Posted April 7, 2007 << "While we will not take down videos that do not violate our policies, and will not assist in implementing censorship ... >> Out of curiousity, is Youtube available in the PRC? Saudi? Iran? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashermac Posted April 7, 2007 Report Share Posted April 7, 2007 p.s. Is it possible to post a video on Youtube with a virus the crashes the whole site? Wonder when that will be thought of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kojis Posted April 7, 2007 Report Share Posted April 7, 2007 Quitye some backlash Thailand is getting... and youtube might cash on welcome advertisement, even already beeing the top video sharing site. Might be quite some good coming out of it all, maybe be thais will make a step forward critical and independant thinking... not quite there yet according to the few comments I read on youtube... Kojis, should burn all flags in the same owen... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuckwoww Posted April 7, 2007 Report Share Posted April 7, 2007 Right. Or maybe google will come out of it looking like arrogant, hypocritical, insensitive arseholes. It's all relative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
limbo Posted April 8, 2007 Report Share Posted April 8, 2007 INTERNET ROW YouTube says it is ready for compromise Offers to 'educate' authorities on blocking individual videos rather than entire site YouTube said yesterday it would offer to "educate" authorities in this country about how the popular video-sharing service works. Such an offer, if accepted, would enable the blocking of individual videos rather than the entire site. The YouTube site was banned in Thailand on Wednesday after a user posted videos mocking His Majesty the King. Meanwhile, Democrat Party deputy leader Alongkorn Pollabutr called on the government to take drastic action. "Blocking the website is not enough. We must find and punish the wrongdoer," Alongkorn said. He called on the government to request the cooperation of YouTube owner Google in tracking the culprit down. Alongkorn did not explain if his call for retribution meant taking legal action against the user who posted the video clip deemed offensive to the monarchy and, if so, how such action might proceed. YouTube spokeswoman Julie Supan said the company had spoken to Information and Communica-tions Technology Minister Sitthichai Pookaiyaudom about the ban and made the offer to "educate" authorities. "Minister Sitthichai reported his government is inflexible on the blocking of individual objectionable videos and that the ministry's technical people have difficulty understanding how to block individual videos," she said. "While we will not take down videos that do not violate our policies and will not assist in implementing censorship, we have offered to educate the Thai ministry about YouTube and how it works," she said. "It's up to the Thailand government to decide whether to block specific videos, but we would rather that than have it block the entire site," she added. The ministry is still deciding how to proceed. It is willing to consider censoring individual videos rather than the entire site. "We insist that the clips con-sidered offensive must be removed from the website," said ministry spokesman Vissanu Meeyoo. "We will look into the technical possibilities of blocking individual Web pages without blocking the entire site," he added. The difficulty for censors blocking individual videos became increasingly clear as new clips continued to be posted this week. The site, accessed from Bangkok via a foreign server, now has at least 10 clips connected to the controversy. Although the user who created it has removed the original clip, some others are similar, showing pictures of His Majesty that are considered offensive in Thailand. But some were simple videos of individuals expressing concern about free-speech issues raised by the ban, part of a fierce debate that has erupted on Internet message boards here and around the world. Media-freedom watchdogs have condemned the ban, saying it underscores the military government's effort to censor political dialogue on the Internet. Thailand has blocked some 45,000 websites, according to the group Freedom Against Censor- ship Thailand. Most are believed to be pornographic, but the government has also banned sites linked to ousted prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra as well as online discussions of the insurgency in the South. The Nation 08/04/07 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashermac Posted April 8, 2007 Report Share Posted April 8, 2007 Right. Or maybe google will come out of it looking like arrogant, hypocritical, insensitive arseholes. It's all relative. They most certainly will if it turns out that Youtube bans insulting videos of Muhammad, for example. Can the Orange fellers post videos insulting the Pope? Maybe Mother Theresa as a hooker? Remember that Google -- new owners of Youtube -- grovelled before the PRC govmt not so very long ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YimSiam Posted April 8, 2007 Report Share Posted April 8, 2007 Maybe Mother Theresa as a hooker? It's one thing to slander and defame, but quite another to educate: Mother Theresa WAS a hooker, and the world has a right to know! And to see the video proof, I might add, though I warn you, it's a bit shocking indeed (especially the stuff from the later years). On a more serious note (and see related censorship thread), it does seem like a good idea to reign in some of the political discussion on this board. Things seem to be quite loose in some discussions on the board, it appears to me, after the departure of Mr. T, and in the current environment it wouldn't take much to piss off the wrong people. A board dedicated to sanuk like this one is hardly the place to stand on principle and exert the right to freedom of expression, and it would be a shame to lose what we have because commentary on sensitive issues was allowed out of hand. At the very least, renewing the strict ban on anything about the you-know-who seems a good idea. I'm happy to volunteer for a bit of political binding-and-gagging while on the board - maybe if I consider it a kind of light S&M it won't bother me as much... YimSiam :grin: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashermac Posted April 8, 2007 Report Share Posted April 8, 2007 I thought there used to be a ban on the discussion of Thai politics on this board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChristianTroy Posted April 8, 2007 Report Share Posted April 8, 2007 Yes please! After the first thread was closed, I don't really see one good reason to open another one! What can we actually get out of this except possible banning? I would consider that a major loss if I couldn't access this site anymore. We all are aware that something is happening on YouTube, we don't have discuss details, reasons or whatever. We can only loose! The more attention it gets - the more videos will pop up. I don't give a shit of someone wants freedom of speech or disagrees with banning. That is not our decision, there are laws, we have to accept them or go elsewhere, we are just foreigners! Can please someone close this thread. All it needs is a stupid person to say the wrong thing and a lot of members will not be able to see this site anymore! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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