Flashermac Posted July 27, 2007 Report Share Posted July 27, 2007 It's all those effing Irish-Americans screwing up the US of A. Kennedy, Reagan and those six Ulster Proddy prezes to start with ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Hippie Posted July 27, 2007 Report Share Posted July 27, 2007 One could argue they chose him via the revolution, and by not over throwing him since...an old professor of mine, was ex CIA, analysist, he stated (*in 1985) That he believed Castro would win hands down in a truely free election, the people loved him. OC Gringo wrote: "...just tough talk by Raul, he is no Fidel , and he knows it, But talking like this makes him look important to the Cuban people , There is no way the USA is just going to roll over and let Cuba back in the fold, how many years did it take before Vietnam came back into the USA graces ? OC..." It took less than 20 years before there was a warming with limited relations. Keep in mind, we actually fought a war with them(Vietnam), as opposed to Cuba...biggest mistake was not setting up relations with Cuba sooner, it might have whipped some capitalism on them, and helped destroy them in a sense, if that is/was ever an intention... The bottom line is, there is really no real reason for all this crap with Cuba. Plenty of worse countries we did nothing about, and never had a travel embargo against, trade embargo etc...the U.S. policy on Cuba is just bullshit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Hippie Posted July 27, 2007 Report Share Posted July 27, 2007 Ok, to sum up. Islamists & Commies good; USA bad. But what if they are commie islamists from America? now what then Mr. Smarty pants!?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julian2 Posted July 27, 2007 Report Share Posted July 27, 2007 Oh, and while we're at it. Let's have a look at Puerto Rica as an example of US democracy. No voting representation in the US, no right to vote in presidential elections. A model of democracy! A look closer to home shows Washington DC citizens have no Federal vote either. Citizens of the District have no voting representation in Congress. They are represented in the House of Representatives by a non-voting delegate (Eleanor Holmes Norton (D-DC At-Large)) who sits on committees and participates in debate, but cannot vote. D.C. has no representation at all in the Senate. Attempts to change this situation, including the proposed District of Columbia Voting Rights Amendment, have been unsuccessful. Taxation without representation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanddawg1 Posted July 27, 2007 Report Share Posted July 27, 2007 I will say it one more time; the modern world has been shaped by aggression and warfare for 5000 years the US is just the biggest kid on the block right now. It could be much much worse we could be living under Islamic law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest lazyphil Posted July 27, 2007 Report Share Posted July 27, 2007 read sanddawgs post. humans have been abusing each, stealing land from each other since we crawled out of the swamps. i was fishing at aldreth yesteraday and often do, home to brutal battles long ago, kind of creepy night fishing here if you let your mind wander! u think the advent of ipods and space travel changes things? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCgringo Posted July 27, 2007 Report Share Posted July 27, 2007 Cubans in Florida hold so much political power there that they can swing the USA presidential elections away from anyone that wants to let Cuba off the hook, Sad really but thats just how it is , The Vietnamese in the USA hold almost no political power. so there was little they could do about it, I think the best was to bring Cuba down is to overrun them with rich , fat American tourists , Show the Cubans how bad they really have it ! Plus the stupid part now is that we are the only country doing the boycott anymore, Years ago it had some bite when the whole western world was in on the boycott, Noe it just looks stupid OC who has not gone to Cuba yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashermac Posted July 27, 2007 Report Share Posted July 27, 2007 "The majority of the more than 2 million current Cuban exiles living in the United States live in and around the city of Miami. Other exiles have relocated to form substantial Cuban American communities in Union City, New Jersey, Hazleton, Pennsylvania, Raleigh, North Carolina and Palm Desert, California." That's a fair number of votes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fidel Posted July 27, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 27, 2007 Shit, what if they're all like the guy from Scarface? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashermac Posted July 27, 2007 Report Share Posted July 27, 2007 Cuban refugees put Bush in the White House. Clinton pissed them off big time over the seizure of Elian Gonzales at gunpoint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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