Neo Posted February 20, 2008 Report Share Posted February 20, 2008 Democracy may not be the correct system for them at this time. After all it is their choice, not ours. Cuba offered to concede to absolutely everything the US wanted unconditionally, but JFK's response was no and he raised the bar, thinking of it instead as an opportunity to push further. The only reason I can see Cuba is embargoed is due to childish and vindictive persons. This is going nowhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuckwoww Posted February 20, 2008 Report Share Posted February 20, 2008 I went to Cuba. It's no socialist paradise that's for sure. They blame the US embargo. The social revolution could not be allowed to succeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogueyam Posted February 20, 2008 Report Share Posted February 20, 2008 Cuba offered to concede to absolutely everything the US wanted unconditionally, but JFK's response was no and he raised the bar, thinking of it instead as an opportunity to push further. JFK has been dead for 35 years. Cuba sucks because of Castro, not because of JFK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogueyam Posted February 20, 2008 Report Share Posted February 20, 2008 They blame the US embargo. The social revolution could not be allowed to succeed. Leftists everywhere blame everything on the US. Tell me something that doesn't bore the crap out of me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Posted February 20, 2008 Report Share Posted February 20, 2008 JFK has been dead for 35 years. Cuba sucks because of Castro, not because of JFK. Ironically, it is widely believed the embargo is the only reason Castro was able to rule for so long. The embargo is an own goal but people are too proud to admit it strengthened the very thing they wished to weaken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogueyam Posted February 20, 2008 Report Share Posted February 20, 2008 ...it is widely believed... Hee, hee, hee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuckwoww Posted February 20, 2008 Report Share Posted February 20, 2008 Leftists everywhere blame everything on the US. Tell me something that doesn't bore the crap out of me. That might be difficult. You don't sound very open-minded but I'll try. How about this... Communism in its pure form canâ??t work. People are too weak and greedy. But dog-eat-dog capitalism isnâ??t so great either. Some kind of socialism is the best I think but it takes different forms in different countries. The US has welfare programs doesnâ??t it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashermac Posted February 20, 2008 Report Share Posted February 20, 2008 MIAMI (AP) - There was little dancing in the streets, no widespread celebration. In Little Havana, the heart of the Cuban exile community, the long- awaited news that Cuban President Fidel Castro resigned brought only muted gleeâ??and a feeling that little would change for the communist island many had fled. As news of the resignation spread, motorists honked vigorously at police patrol cars and television reporters. Isolated shouts of "Free Cuba!" echoed in the streets, and small groups gathered to chat in local eateries. But the community's reaction to the news, long expected to spark vibrant celebration, was filled with caution. "I hope this is the beginning of the end of the system, but we have to wait," said 35-year-old chemist Omar Fernandez, who left Cuba for the U.S. six years ago. Repeated rumors of Castro's death over the years helped prepare residents and officials for a day that all knew would eventually come. But the scene here Tuesday was far quieter than when thousands jubilantly took to the streets after Castro temporarily handed power to his brother Raul in July 2006. The fact is, residents said, Cuba is the same with Castro's brother in power. "It's the same repression inside Cuba. No freedom. No refuge. Lack of liberty," said Pedro Lopez, 54, who came from Cuba about 30 years ago. Most exiles view Fidel Castro as a ruthless dictator who forced them, their parents or grandparents from their home after he seized power in a revolution in 1959. Police said they were "keeping a sharp eye" on Little Havana, but no disruptions had been reported. The Coast Guard said it did not expect a mass migration or see a need to increase patrols off Florida. Ulises Colina, a 65-year-old electrical technician, said he was not certain if the resignation would bring any change. "I think it was a foregone conclusion that his political career would be over soon," Colina said. Colina theorized that any change in Cuba would have to come from within the military. "Changes? Well, he's the leader of the gang but he has a bunch of auxiliary gang members who don't want to see change," Colina said. Link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Posted February 20, 2008 Report Share Posted February 20, 2008 ...it is widely believed... Hee' date=' hee, hee.[/quote'] If you are interested, do the research. The embargo meant Castro didn't have to face up to his failed policies. He instead was able to simply blame the US every time as his justification and it worked like a charm. Without the embargo to excuse his failures, analysts don't think he would have been able to maintain his position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuckwoww Posted February 20, 2008 Report Share Posted February 20, 2008 If the US really wanted to change the system in Cuba they'd let Walmart stick a damn great store in Havana. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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