Gere sees Olympics boycott if China mishandles Tibet

[Flashermac]

Dalai Lama says cultural genocide taking place in Tibet, as security forces enforce curfew

 

 

The Dalai Lama said Sunday that Tibet faces "cultural genocide," as armed police and soldiers patrolled Lhasa enforcing a clampdown following violent protests that drew negative publicity for China ahead of the Beijing Olympics.

 

"Whether the (Chinese) government there admits or not, there is a problem," the Dalai Lama said. "Whether intentionally or unintentionally, some cultural genocide is taking place."

 

He told reporters in Dharmsala, the north Indian hill town where Tibet's self-declared government-in-exile is based, that an international body should investigate the crackdown.

 

The crackdown came after five days of protests in Lhasa escalated into violence Friday, with Buddhist monks and others torching police cars and shops in the fiercest challenge to Beijing's rule over the region in nearly two decades.

 

Thubten Samphel, a spokesman for the Dalai Lama's government-in-exile, said multiple sources inside Tibet had counted at least 80 corpses since the violence broke out Friday. He did not know how many of the bodies were protesters. At least another 72 people had been injured, he said.

 

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[chuckwoww]

"...an international body should investigate the crackdown."

 

Tony Blair is the man for the job if he's not too busy on the lecture circuit.

 

[rogueyam]

However both of the latter regimes were about as Communist as you are.

It's called Totalitarianism or a Kleptocracy if you like and they share about as much of the wealth with the people as the Republicans do.

Like all leftists, Fidel, everything you say is completely irrational and dishonest. You argue that there is no evidence there's anything wrong with communism because all of the communists who ever actually obtained power are or were imperfectly communistic and therefore the tyranny and impoverishment they have invariably created says nothing about communism. This is an old, tired lie, Fidel. All human beings are imperfect and their imperfections (a.k.a. "human nature") doesn't substantially change over time. Communism fails everywhere and always because it is incompatible with human nature. Stalin knew this but didn't care. He just wanted power for himself. What about you, Fidel? What's your motivation?

[SpiceMan]

Umm, Fidel didn't say that, Julian did.

[rogueyam]

Umm, Fidel didn't say that, Julian did.

 

Oops, thanks for pointing that out. Sorry, Fidel.

 

So, how 'bout it, Julian?

[Julian2]

Hey, stop giving Fidel credit for my learned expounding.

What's my motivation Rog? Just argument for the sake of it sometimes, which is what forums are about.

 

What is it with you and the personal attacks? Why is everyone who disagrees with you a liar?

There's an enormous amount of insecurity here. Possibly because a lot of your arguments are flawed as well.

 

You're articulate and sound well educated and entitled to your opinions but why are you wasting your rhetoric on a bunch of burned out old alcoholic whoremongers like ourselves?

 

I realise there's an election campaign and people like yourself are getting excited; particularly, I suppose, because your chosen candidate is looking a bit wobbly in the polls. Is McCain your personal choice? A lot of Republicans weren't keen on him earlier. Maybe he's "imperfectly capitalist"?

 

I'm hardly a socialist anyway, there's some remnants of a "fair go for all" philosophy there but at bottom I don't really give a stuff about American elections, the puppet masters will continue to rule regardless of the outcome.

I suppose I come closest to the Flashermac style anarchist.

 

 

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All human beings are imperfect and their imperfections (a.k.a. "human nature") doesn't substantially change over time. Communism fails everywhere and always because it is incompatible with human nature.

Of course, the exact same argument holds true for capitalism...

 

Regards,

SD

[Fidel]

Ha ha, Rogue. That's funny!

 

 

I suppose by now its an impulsive reaction. Someone posts something you disagree with, and you automatically begin with "Fidel....."!

 

 

Happy Paddy's Day!

[Flashermac]

<< I suppose I come closest to the Flashermac style anarchist. >>

 

[robaus]

elef, thanks for the link

... looks like another cock-up by my Pommie ancestors.

 

"Throughout most of the 19th century Great Britain and the expanding Russian Empire were jockeying for influence in Central Asia, and Britain decided to hand over Aksai Chin to Chinese administration as a buffer against Russian invasion. The newly-created border was known as the MacCartney-MacDonald Line, and both British-controlled India and China now began to show Aksai Chin as Chinese. In 1911 the Xinhai Revolution resulted in power shifts in China, and by 1918 (in the wake of the Russian Bolshevik Revolution) the British no longer saw merit in China's continuing possession of the region. On British maps the border was redrawn as the original Johnson Line, but despite this reversion the new border was left unmanned and undemarcated. According to Neville Maxwell, the British had used as many as 11 different boundary lines in the region, as their claims shifted with the political situation"