rogueyam Posted June 30, 2008 Report Share Posted June 30, 2008 My take is that the court considered that the oil company had adequately compensated the victims for their loss and there was no need for punitive damages because the spill wasn't really their fault and they were nice guys anyway. You started out pretty well here but then went stupid about halfway through. Still, you beat Hippie if that's any consolation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julian2 Posted June 30, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 30, 2008 Aren't you the grumpy one this week. Bad weekend? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Hippie Posted June 30, 2008 Report Share Posted June 30, 2008 His ass is sore from the parade. He also fails to inform us what his take is on why the amount was lowered...typical "righty neo con lame out..." Perhapes he knows he is wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogueyam Posted June 30, 2008 Report Share Posted June 30, 2008 Perhapes he knows he is wrong? How so? The issue before the USSC was the provisions for punitive damages under maritime law. As one would expect, the locals here immediately chimed in with a load of faux-populist bullshit about corruption by big business. You, Hippie, made it explicit by decrying the slashing of the victims' "compensation". But the ruling is not about compensation - the compensatory damages were left unchanged. Nor did the ruling eliminate the punitive damages as another poster claimed. It merely reduced them. Leftists believe in their hearts that it doesn't matter how stupid and ignorant and sloppy they are because what is important is their heartfelt concern for the downtrodden. Such people should be forcibly confined to rock concerts and orgies to prevent their damaging society in such ways that result in the impoverishment and enslavement of all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julian2 Posted June 30, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 30, 2008 Leftists believe in their hearts that it doesn't matter how stupid and ignorant and sloppy they are because what is important is their heartfelt concern for the downtrodden. Such people should be forcibly confined to rock concerts and orgies to prevent their damaging society in such ways that result in the impoverishment and enslavement of all. Go back to bed Rog, you're losing the plot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Hippie Posted June 30, 2008 Report Share Posted June 30, 2008 Here was my post... 29/06/2008 10:19 - Post#699329 In response to rogueyam - US court slashes payout over Exxon Valdez disaster * rogueyam Said: Still waiting for someone here to address the actual issues at hand. The issues? You mean the fact that a tanker had an accident, spilled oil, fucked up the sound, cost people their livelihood and standard of living, largely due to negligence and now want compensation? Or do you mean "...a bunch of left wing commie puke environmentalists are trying to bilk big oil out of their money?" Now where did I "decry" anything about them losing their compensation? All I said was "...a tanker had an accident, spilled oil, fucked up the sound, cost people their livelihood and standard of living, largely due to negligence and now want compensation?..." No complaint at all about having their compensation cut...apparently Roggie can't read or process thoughts properly. Proves the "righy fascists" twist and manipulate everything before them. Yep, he's just another fellow traveler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangkoktraveler Posted June 30, 2008 Report Share Posted June 30, 2008 Rogueyam, a Fellow Traveler, didn't get enought Sunday. If he had skipped Church, he would have gotten a whole lot more. As for the orgies he wants us confined to, I am all for that just as long as he only watches. Now back to the issue at hand. The decision to slash $2 billion off the punitive damages awarded over the Exxon Valdez oil spill gave businesses the right to celebrate over knowledge that by seating right-leaning Supreme Court judges was paying off. While the Exxon case specifically dealt with an obscure maritime law, legal experts predicted the ramifications would be felt in state courts around the country as judges grappled with the ruling that punitive damages should not exceed compensatory damages. The fact that the victims of the worst environmental disaster the world has ever seen will receive just $30,000 each should be a cause for celebration to any company doing business in the USA, the world's most litigious country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Hippie Posted June 30, 2008 Report Share Posted June 30, 2008 You have to realize, Roggie and company really have no clue either, no fellow traveler ever does they say. So I figure he caught the buzz words from Rush "the drug addict who was caught bringing drugs into the USA (viagra for his little limp dick) and other stuff" Limbaugh and Bill "caught in a sex scandal despite being married, and admitted to whoring around in BKK" O'Reilly tell him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangkoktraveler Posted June 30, 2008 Report Share Posted June 30, 2008 Didn't Rush get caught doctor shopping for oxycodein? I think rogueyam, our fellow traveler, has to agree a little bit with us. Even whore mongers, at times, share the same woman, and when we get whipped up into a horny frenzie, we all like to indulge in long drawn out orgies. The Exxon Valdez oil spill gives the victims of the worst environmental disaster the world has ever seen, a penance of just $30,000 each should be a cause for celebration to any company doing business in the USA, the world's most litigious country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cavanami Posted July 1, 2008 Report Share Posted July 1, 2008 A bit about the Ship's captain... "...Exxon Valdez departed the port of Valdez, Alaska at 9:12 p.m. March 23, 1989 with 53 million gallons of crude oil bound for California. A harbor pilot guided the ship through the Valdez Narrows before departing the ship and returning control to Hazelwood, the ship's master. The ship maneuvered out of the shipping lane to avoid icebergs. Following the maneuver and sometime after 11 p.m., Hazelwood departed the wheel house and was in his stateroom at the time of the accident. He left Third Mate Gregory Cousins in charge of the wheel house and Able Seaman Robert Kagan at the helm with instructions to return to the shipping lane at a prearranged point. Exxon Valdez failed to return to the shipping lanes and struck Bligh Reef at around 12:04 a.m. March 24, 1989. The accident resulted in the discharge of around 11 million gallons of oil, 20% of the cargo, into Prince William Sound.[9] During Hazelwood's trial following the accident, Alaska state prosecutors failed to convince the jury that Hazelwood was intoxicated at the time of the grounding. By his own admission, Hazelwood drank "two or three vodkas" between 4:30 and 6:30 that same night, his blood alcohol content was found to be .061. However, the defense argued that the blood samples were taken nearly ten hours after the incident and were mishandled. Most states, including Alaska, do not allow samples after three hours and a preservative required to halt fermentation was not added to the sample. Fermentation could have added to the amount of alcohol in the sample making the result invalid. As a result of the accident, in 1991 the United States Coast Guard suspended his masters' license for a period of nine months. Hazelwood was acquitted on all felony charges, but was convicted of a misdemeanor charge of negligent discharge of oil, fined $50,000, and sentenced to 1,000 hours of community service.[3]..." Good data! I remember being told that Hazelwood, was NOT drunk but had gotten drunk well after the incident, then the media did a PR number on him! With the oil companies making billions on top of billions at the moment, the punitive damages are about nothing to them but they do now want to set any type of a precedent...IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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