The_Munchmaster Posted April 15, 2009 Report Share Posted April 15, 2009 A New Zealand honey-mooner on Indonesia's resort island of Bali died after he got involved in a fight with bar staff at the weekend. Police said Sean Keith William, 22, got into a scuffle with a bartender and two bouncers during a night out with his wife at Bounty Discotheque at Kuta beach. He died after being hit with a glass in the head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drogon Posted April 15, 2009 Report Share Posted April 15, 2009 Good....another moron starting a fight... 22 years old dumb tourist, I don't feel the least sorry for this kind of scumbag, world is better without him. (and the wife should have chosen a guy who is not a violent prick) http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,25334466-12335,00.html http://balicar.net/blog/2009/04/bali-police-investigate-death-of-new-zealand-tourist-sean-keith-william/ ---------------------------------- "The victim was drunk. He had thrown a glass at a bartender who told him to exchange his beverage voucher at the cashier. The bartender hurled a glass back at him which hit his left temple," he said. "Two security officers who tried to break them up ended up kicking and hitting the victim too." Mr Suwetra said the couple went back to their hotel but Mr William failed to wake up in the morning. -------------------------------- According to several witnesses, William was involved in a pub brawl prior to his death, Suwetra said. When his request for a drink discount was refused, he allegedly became highly agitated and began running amok, throwing empty beer bottles around the bar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torneyboy Posted April 15, 2009 Report Share Posted April 15, 2009 The victim was drunk. He had thrown a glass at a bartender who told him to exchange his beverage voucher at the cashier. The bartender hurled a glass back at him which hit his left temple," he said. Customer service... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perv Posted April 15, 2009 Report Share Posted April 15, 2009 I agree, TB. The bartender should have asked him if he wanted another glass to throw at him as his hands were empty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drogon Posted April 15, 2009 Report Share Posted April 15, 2009 Honeymoon in NZ = cool fights? My concept of honeymoon: Quite, comfortable places and too busy with the wife to even go have a drink somewhere I suppose that honeymoons in NZ are a bit similar to honeymoons here -> already so pissed at the wife that you prefer to get drunk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Munchmaster Posted April 15, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 15, 2009 The honeymoon was in Bali, not NZ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drogon Posted April 15, 2009 Report Share Posted April 15, 2009 I do know munchie...When I mention honeymoon in NZ I should have written honeymoons between kiwis.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kamui Posted April 15, 2009 Report Share Posted April 15, 2009 Good....another moron starting a fight...22 years old dumb tourist, I don't feel the least sorry for this kind of scumbag, world is better without him. (and the wife should have chosen a guy who is not a violent prick) http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,25334466-12335,00.html http://balicar.net/blog/2009/04/bali-police-investigate-death-of-new-zealand-tourist-sean-keith-william/ ---------------------------------- "The victim was drunk. He had thrown a glass at a bartender who told him to exchange his beverage voucher at the cashier. The bartender hurled a glass back at him which hit his left temple," he said. "Two security officers who tried to break them up ended up kicking and hitting the victim too." Mr Suwetra said the couple went back to their hotel but Mr William failed to wake up in the morning. -------------------------------- According to several witnesses, William was involved in a pub brawl prior to his death, Suwetra said. When his request for a drink discount was refused, he allegedly became highly agitated and began running amok, throwing empty beer bottles around the bar. Drogon that is really a stupid opinion! The guy was drunk, but it seems he didn't hurt anybody, but was killed by the staff. The staff was extremely badly trained, all of them. This bar should be closed immediately since the bartender/bouncers are a hazard for the guests. Their job is to defuse a situation in which drunk and/or aggressive guests are involved. If the staff in other bars would react like them we would see hundreds of dead guests every weekend all over the world. Just think again: killing a drunk guest - in a location which is making money of making guests drunk - for throwing a glass... I am glad that in my youth the bouncers in the discotheques (punk/ new wave) I went to were much more professional when someone threw a barstool or acted aggressively otherwise. Usually the bouncers/bartenders were there in seconds, they immobilized the guest and escorted him more or less friendly to the door. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drogon Posted April 15, 2009 Report Share Posted April 15, 2009 A death is certainly stupid...my opinion might not be very "nice" but I will not change it. This sort of "death" due to a brawl in a bar/disco is also quite frequent in the west... Yes, I do agree that many bouncers/bar staff back here are professional and when violence happens -> they usually are able to calm things without killing anyone. My best mate at university was working part time as a bouncer -> he never hurt anyone or had any problems... But this is Bali, where the bouncers/bar staff have probably as much training as the ones here on the costa blanca or costa del sol (thugs without any training). Germany has certainly very stict laws regulating the bouncers jobs, training and in case they "mess up" -> they will get into serious troubles. Still, I believe the 22 years old guy was a nutter whom the world will not miss -> call it dumb luck for him. I certainly don't feel sorry for him nor wouldn't I feel sorry if it had been a 22 years old nutter dying in Phuket in similar circumstances... There are far enough good people in this world who better deserve our pity or help.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartThais Posted April 15, 2009 Report Share Posted April 15, 2009 Just curious... Do you see any difference between the following statements? 'The world would be a better place without violent drunks' and 'Violent drunks deserve to die.' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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