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[Flashermac]

Positions reversed ... now Obama has to show he is up to the job. That's a surprise turnaround.

[HSTEACH]

Positions reversed ... now Obama has to show he is up to the job. That's a surprise turnaround.

 

 

It would benefit the Democrats if they would put a piece of duct tape on Biden's mouth for his upcoming debate.

[Flashermac]

Biden almost makes Sarah Pailin look intellectual.

[unit731]

Ms Palin can see Russia from her back yard.

That makes her an expert on viewing Russia from backyards.

[Flashermac]

Daily Presidential Tracking Poll

 

 

The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Saturday shows Mitt Romney attracting support from 49% of voters nationwide, while President Obama earns the vote from 47%. Two percent (2%) prefer some other candidate, and two percent (2%) are undecided.

 

These results are based upon nightly interviews and reported on a three-day rolling average basis. As a result, only about two-thirds of the interviews for today’s update were conducted after the presidential debate. Sunday morning’s update will be the first national polling based entirely upon post-debate interviews.

 

Still, the numbers reflect quite a debate bounce for Romney. Heading into Wednesday’s showdown, it was the president who enjoyed a two-point advantage. Today is the first time Romney has been ahead by even a single point since mid-September. See daily tracking history. As with all bounces, it remains to be seen whether it is a temporary blip or signals a lasting change in the race.

 

Both men have solidified their partisan base. Romney is supported by 89% of Republicans and Obama by 88% of Democrats. Among those not affiliated with either major party, Romney leads by 16.

 

The generation gap remains wide. Obama leads by double digits among those under 40. Romney leads by double digits among those over 40.

Matchup results are updated daily at 9:30 a.m. Eastern.

 

Post-debate state polls show Romney up one in Virginia, the president up one in Ohio and Romney up two in Florida. All three remain Toss-Ups in the Rasmussen Reports Electoral College Projections.

 

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Rasmelon Reports

 

[robaus]

Daily Presidential Tracking Poll

 

 

The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Saturday shows Mitt Romney attracting support from 49% of voters nationwide, while President Obama earns the vote from 47%. Two percent (2%) prefer some other candidate, and two percent (2%) are undecided.

 

 

I fear for the USA and the world's future under Romney... a double dip recession world wide, and more wars. But on the bright side, Romney's rich cronies will do well and his children will not be doing any of the fighting in the Middle East.

 

Buy gold.

 

[unit731]

Buy gold.

 

 

I have met folks who actually believe all of this.

Silver coins and silver bars

400 cans of tuna fish

Bags of grains

Bags of organic seeds

And a few side arms

 

Nothing to do with this election. All to do with prophecies of Glen Beck and Alex Jones with a tad of the Mayan Calendar.

[Steve]

Rasmussen: Obama 271, Romney 267

 

 

One month and one day before the most important presidential election in the past quarter of a century and perhaps in the past century and a quarter, Rasmussen Reports shows the race being about as even as it could possibly be. At this point, Rasmussen’s state-by-state polling shows that President Obama would win by the tally of 271 electoral votes to 267 for Mitt Romney.

All of Rasmussen’s polls in the nine key swing states have been taken in the past three weeks, although the polls have been taken at different times during that stretch. In these nine key swing states, Rasmussen’s polling shows Romney leading in Virginia (by 1 percentage point), Florida (by 2 points), Colorado (by 2 points), Iowa (by 3 points), and New Hampshire (by 3 points). Rasmussen’s polling shows Obama leading in Ohio (by 1 point), Nevada (by 2 points), Wisconsin (by 3 points), and Pennsylvania (by 12 points).

 

Two months ago, on August 2, Rasmussen showed Obama ahead by the tally of 284 electoral votes to Romney’s 235. Obama subsequently expanded his lead, eclipsing 300 projected electoral votes, before falling back into what is now, for all intents and purposes, a tie.

 

My link

 

Rasmussen uses the smallest sampling number of all the major polls. Real Clear has the best average data from the major polls including Rasmussen.

 

This election is still Obama's by a fairly comfortable margin. Florida is still in play and so is Virginia. Obama doesn't need Virginia. Its over if he wins it because it makes Florida null and void. Obama pretty much has 4 of the 5 biggest traditional swing states. Real Clear has him leading in Iowa and NH.

 

The breakdown

Florida and Virginia are in play

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/fl/florida_romney_vs_obama-1883.html

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/va/virginia_romney_vs_obama-1774.html

 

ohio is Obama by 4 points http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/oh/ohio_romney_vs_obama-1860.html

nevada averages out to 4.6 pts http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/nv/nevada_romney_vs_obama-1908.html

wisconsin is more like 7 points http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/wi/wisconsin_romney_vs_obama-1871.html

obama is leading by 3 points in Iowa http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/ia/iowa_romney_vs_obama-1922.html

new hampshire is pretty much Obama http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/nh/new_hampshire_romney_vs_obama-2030.html

michigan is firmly Obama http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/mi/michigan_romney_vs_obama-1811.html

[Steve]

Biden is a known loose cannon so he his not taken as seriously when he flies off the handle. Ryan is not so any comments that are contraversial will be taken more seriously. That said, I wouldn't want either to be President. Ryan far moreso.

 

The PBS big bird thingy from the debate is in the news. What I don't like about is the real reason why Republicans have an almost religious zeal in stopping its funding. The amount the government spends is less than 50 million. The problem they have isn't Sesame Street, its NPR and the fringe left views of some of the people on it. Sesame Street pretty much pays for itself in merchandising, etc. Its 'Americana'. Its worth the 40 to 50 million for that alone. Its proven to be great for pre school kids and has helped many foreigners learn english at a basic level.

 

There are far, far more costly programs that waste 'real' money that are worthless programs. I actually agree that a lot of programming are far left leaning but conservatives have access too. There are a few in some locals.

 

The point is their reasons are petty. Ideological and not based on a pressing need. Its not worth the time and effort when there are obvious bigger fish to fry.

 

My prediction for the future. Obama will win. Very little chance he doesn't. The economy will pick up. Dems may get more seats in the off year elections. Biden and Hillary will run in '16, Hillary will get the nomination and unless the Republicans put a moderate in they won't win. The demographics will continue to work against them. Virginia is now a swing state from a formerly fairly safe Republican state because northern Virginia has expanded its Washington DC suburb flavor. The southern part of the state is southern in culture and attitude, but the northern part has many latinos with a large Salvadorean population and other latinos. A large number of moderates or liberals who work in DC and commute from Virginia. That part is increasing while the white southern part of the state is at best constant. Virginia will eventually lean Democrat.

 

North Carolina shouldn't even be a swing state. This is the home state of Jesse Helms. Almost always Republican in Presidential elections but like Virginia its demographics have changed. NC has an area called the triangle, its the area of 3 cities and is a research and tech mecca of the south. A large number of people have flowed into the state who are liberal or moderate. The state schools get a large number of non NC people who are also not as conservative as the state. They will take longer than Virginia to move to the left but they will be a swing state. Jesse Helms would find it very very difficult to get elected in NC these days. Charlotte has had a black mayor in the past which wouldn't have been possible a generation ago. Charlotte is an example of people moving there who are moderate or liberal.

 

The latino vote in Nevada is growing. Its changed the demographics of the state. Also, many moderates are moving there. Despite having Las Vegas, they voted pretty much Republican in the past. Many mormons and outside the casinoes there are rural conservative folks.

 

The tea party and the religious right are killing the future of the Republican party in national elections and many statewide elections. The party is being reduced to white males and fundamental whites as their base, and that is not a growing base.

[dean]

For the second time in my lifetime, I'll vote outside of the 2 party system. In 1980, I voted for John Anderson and this year, I'll vote for Gary Johnson of the Libertarian Party. I've heard him before and heard him and Julie Stein, the Green Party candidate, today in a mock debate on NPR. Both correctly said the current health care system bares little resemblance to a free market system, and Johnson actually dared to say he would increase greatly the number of Doctors in the U.S., if President. I don't like the way the 2 parties squeeze out the 3rd party candidates by requiring that they have at least 15% in polling. However, living in Kansas, my vote for Obama means nothing and the State will go for Romney decidedly.