Usa Thread

[kamui]

Once again, the libtards in mainstream media get caught manufacturing shit and manipulating the "news". (Like 45 year-old hazing is "news" 555555555555)

 

HH

 

Yeah, right, as if the whole right wing media (Fox and co.) wouldn't jump on this kind of story if it wasn't Romney.

 

The timing of the story was of course perfect: a day after Obama supported gay marriage, Romney is being described as a homophobe who personally attacked and abused a gay classmate and mobbed another classmate who just looked gay in his eyes...

 

 

 

[Flashermac]

We don't need no proof. This is American politics!

 

Only ... the 145 year old Washington Post is supposed to be better than Fox News. Remember the Post? It is the paper that broke the news of Watergate. Have they now become just another hack newspaper?

 

Now is the time for Fox News to drag up those stories of Obama supposedly having gay romances.

 

 

 

 

 

[kamui]

Here ya go, HH, More exciting news:

 

Obama's Sordid High School Days

 

 

 

As your really trustworthy source says [/irony off], this was already in the mainstream media (Chicago Post) in 2007 and Obama provided the information himself...

It seems that the WP scoop caught Fox et al on the wrong foot.

 

By the way, as a teacher, don't you agree that mobbing and attacking classmate(s) for being gay (or just being perceived as gay) and smoking a joint are really different things?

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Flashermac]

Your question is out of place, since we have no idea if the Washington Post claim actually happened. The Post reporter has already been caught in one "inconsistency".

 

Here is what the alleged victim's sister says - from the same WP article:

 

<< Christine Lauber, older sister of John Lauber, who died in 2004, told ABC News she had â€no knowledge†of the incident involving her brother and Romney. But she said she was at college at the time of the incident, so at the time the brother and sister were “doing our own thing.â€

 

“Even if it did happen, John probably wouldn’t have said anything,†she said.

 

“If he were still alive today, he would be furious [about the story],†she added with tears in her eyes. â€It’s two 16-year-old kids at school. And it was 40 years ago!†>>

 

In other words, the alleged victim's sister does not know if it happened, and says if alive, her brother would not want it brought up.

 

Same report:

 

<< In response to the Post story, the Romney campaign today released statements of two other students who attended Cranbrook with Romney.

 

“Mitt was a thoughtful guy with a great sense of humor who cared about his classmates. He had a good perspective on how to balance all the pressures high school students face. He would never go out and do anything mean spirited. Clownish, yes. Never mean,†said Richard Moon, a classmate of Romney’s.

 

“Mitt never had a malicious bone in his body – trying to imply or characterize him as a bully is absurd.†said John French, another Cranbrook classmate. >>

 

So basically you have one classmate describing something he says he saw 40-some years ago, and two other classmates who deny it. It's a matter of yes-he-did versus no-he-didn't and would not hold up in any court.

 

 

If Fox News had carried such a story, it would be ridiculed. So what makes it news for the Washington Post to report?

[Flashermac]

Assassinations are a big hit again

 

My link

 

 

[kamui]

Your question is out of place, since we have no idea if the Washington Post claim actually happened. The Post reporter has already been caught in one "inconsistency".

 

 

 

Romney's friends(?) didn't say that the incidents didn't happen at all. They just they give a character assessment, that this shold not have happened, considering Romeny was such a nice guy.

 

So why did Romney already apologize almost immediately for his behavior during his youth?

Is he so weak that he apologizes for things he didn't do? And the WAPO had 5 different sources (much more than for the Watergate scandal).

 

Anyway the Romney campaign has of course the disadvantage that the whole right wing media and related groups spend already 4 years researching the life of Obama ever. By now nothing really stuck (the Birther Stuff was a boomerang obviously, which puts off non right-wing independent voters, e.g.). One reason of course is, that Obama had been so clever to reveal his "sins" during his youth by himself.

 

We can expect that the media will do much more digging in regard to Romney's past.

 

By the way, don't forget: The term "swift boating" was coined in regard to a very ugly and dirty right wing campaign.

[Steve]

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[Steve]

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[Steve]

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[Steve]

Talk about silly. Must me election time. This talk about Romney supposedly teasing or bullying a gay student when he was a teenager. Give me a friggin' break. So what? If you didn't do anything stupid as a teenager, I'm more apt NOT to vote for you. All of us on here have I'm sure.