Bangkoktraveler Posted September 19, 2011 Report Share Posted September 19, 2011 I think you mean people where atheism is a secondary part of their philosophy. Mao, PolPot and Stalin may have been atheists but it wasn't a keystone of their behaviour. They did evil because they were evil bastards, not because they were atheists or communists or any other ists. Does God have a religion or is he an atheist? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangkoktraveler Posted September 19, 2011 Report Share Posted September 19, 2011 Could be right, the Spanish Inquisition had a civil code of conduct that allowed them plenty of scope for evil though. At least two of the gentlemen I referred to were almost certainly certifiable sociopaths anyway so any rules wouldn't have mattered. Spanish Inquisition is considered bad but waterboarding is considered good. Hard to figure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coss Posted September 19, 2011 Report Share Posted September 19, 2011 I was forced to learn English, even thought I grew up to be a Monger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julian2 Posted September 20, 2011 Report Share Posted September 20, 2011 Spanish Inquisition is considered bad but waterboarding is considered good. Hard to figure. I suppose we could use a scale of ten? Burning at the stake 9.5 Waterboarding... 6.0? Good cop/bad cop interrogation 2.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashermac Posted September 20, 2011 Report Share Posted September 20, 2011 My first grade teacher used to make me stand in the corner because I drew pictures on my spelling papers. I'd never realised until I could use that to explain all of my misdeeds in my adult life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julian2 Posted September 20, 2011 Report Share Posted September 20, 2011 Well what else could it have possibly been? I was once WRONGFULLY punished (50 lines) for playing in the front of the school grounds before morning assembly... I'm amazed I turned out the decent honest bloke that I did! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robaus Posted September 21, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2011 It may quite well be that their "atheism" allowed them to be evil bastards, not having a civil code of conduct to guide them in their behavior toward their fellow man. HH ...I was responding to your hypothetical with my hypothetical. Although I think it's quite credible that Stalin's church school and seminary experience embittered him. He certainly had no love for the church when he became dictator. Remember this was in the 1890s. Church schools and institutions well into the late 20thC have an horrendous track record of child abuse. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_sex_abuse_cases It wasn't until 1996 that the last Magdalene Asylum, (where unmarried mothers and flirtatious or even simply "too pretty" girls wre incarcerated as insane - it was the fucking nuns and priests guarding them who were insane) in Ireland finally closed its doors, after a scandal in 1993 when the remains of 155 inmates were found buried in unmarked graves on the property of another Magadalen asylum View http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magdalene_Asylum and the excellent film based on this history "The Magdalene Sisters" http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0318411/ You've got to be slightly mentally unbalanced (or to be kind lets say "gullible") to believe in a supernatural saviour anyway. The leaders of these religions are definitely warped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robaus Posted September 21, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2011 >>The leaders of these religions are definitely warped. .. didn't take long for my words to come true.... maybe I'm a prophet?.. now where's that tax exemption form? Went to look at lunchtime BBC news update.. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14992891 21 September 2011 Last updated at 00:43 GMT 'Miracle babies' pastor to be extradited to Kenya An evangelist who claimed to have created miraculous pregnancies through prayer is to be sent back to Kenya to face child abduction charges. Gilbert Deya has fought a legal battle to stay in the UK since 2007, arguing anything else would breach his human rights. Now the home secretary Theresa May has decided his extradition should go ahead. The Kenyan government alleges he stole five children between 1999 and 2004. Concerns were first aired about Mr Deya's conduct on the BBC Radio 4 investigative programme, Face the Facts in 2004. Infertile or post-menopausal women who attended his church in Peckham, South London were told they would be having "miracle" babies. But the babies were always "delivered" in backstreet clinics in Nairobi. The Tottenham MP, David Lammy, had a husband and wife turn up at his constituency surgery who had been through it. "The couple went to Africa, came back into the country with a child that the authorities found out was not theirs through a DNA test. "What unravelled was clearly a child trafficking situation, that didn't just involve my constituents, but involved a number of women making their way to Kenya and then arriving back into our country apparently thinking these children were theirs but they clearly were not," he said. Gilbert Deya was interviewed on Face the Facts in 2004. When asked how he explained the births of children with DNA different to that of their alleged parents, he said: "The miracle babies which are happening in our ministry are beyond human imagination. "It is not something I can say I can explain because they are of God and things of God cannot be explained by a human being." In 2007, the then home secretary, Jacqui Smith decided Mr Deya should be extradited to Kenya. His appeal against that decision at the High Court failed and he was refused permission to take his case to the House of Lords. And while the legal wranglings have continued Gilbert Deya has remained in the UK running what appears to be a successful charity, and broadcasting to Africa and Europe on his satellite TV channel, Deya Broadcasting Network. The latest available accounts for his charity, Gilbert Deya Ministries, date back to 2009 and show an income from voluntary donations of more than £1.2m. The charity's stated purpose is to "advance the Christian religion". On its website it claims to have 34,000 followers with churches in Manchester, Liverpool, Birmingham, Leicester and London. Mr Deya's wife, Mary, has already been jailed in Kenya for child abduction. In a statement the Home Office said: "He has exhausted all avenues of appeal against extradition under the Extradition Act." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Central Scrutinizer Posted September 26, 2011 Report Share Posted September 26, 2011 The two topics most likely to have people choosing up sides and squaring off are religion and politics. But I am seeing something of a bizarre trend these days with the rise of the militant atheists! I almost never talk about my own beliefs, since they are no one else's business. But the "militant atheists" never miss a chance to slag off those who don't agree with them, making insults towards believers of any kind of religion. It is almost as if atheism for them has become sort of a "substitute religion" - the religion of disbelief. People are strange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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