Are they really that poor?

[spirit_of_town_hall]

I think its the same everywhere, modern employers are employing people on temporary contracts so you have fuck all rights.

 

 

 

Ands its not as if you could turn round and say I want a four day working week which is what I want, .

 

 

 

STH

[Guest]

Hi STH,

 

 

 

Yea...but this is also a negative situation for the employer, as well. Having a bunch of "temps" making up your workforce, is not a good thing for them, and they know it. Shitty for both sides to be put into this situation.

 

 

 

HT

[khunsanuk]

Hi,

 

 

 

"How many hours per day do the B-I-Ls work"

 

Depends, standard day is 8hrs, pay starts at 185Baht, more if you have special skills.

 

Work OT until 8pm, and you receive an additional 95 Baht. Work until 11pm, and get another 95 Baht.

 

 

 

"and how many days per month?"

 

All.

 

 

 

Sanuk!

 

 

 

"Do they get the typical 2 days per month off, or every Sunday?"

 

No days off. You don't work, you don't get paid.

 

 

 

Sanuk!

 

 

[khunsanuk]

Hi,

 

 

 

"Do your in-law laborers get health insurance for their families?"

 

I think that this company does have some kind of health insurance. It is rather uncommon though.

 

 

 

"And what happens if hurt on the job?"

 

Actually, one of them lost part of his finger a month or so back. Company picked up the tab, but no additional money, nor compensation for the days missed at work.

 

 

 

"does LOS have child labor laws that you know of?"

 

Don't know.

 

 

 

Sanuk!

 

 

[Guest]

Many small companies do get around this by contract work. However in order to get a work permit, your employer has to be paying social security. You have to in fact now show proof. Someone of course has to pay :-)

 

 

 

Workmen?s Compensation The Compensation Act B.E. 2537 (A.D. 1994) prescribes that the employer must provide the necessary compensation benefits for employees who suffer injury or illness or who die as a result or in the performance of their work at the rates prescribed by law.

 

The compensation benefits can be grouped into 4 categories:

 

the compensation amount, the medical expenses, the work

 

rehabilitation expenses and the funeral expenses. The payment of compensation benefits will be made in accordance with the criteria and rates prescribed by law depending on the

 

seriousness of the case. In general, the compensation amount

 

must be paid monthly at the rate of 60% of the monthly wages

 

of the employee but not lower than 2,000 Baht and not

 

exceeding 9,000 Baht per month. The monthly payment of the

 

compensation amount will be paid over a specific period of

 

time and based upon the criteria prescribed by law to the

 

employee who is unable to work continuously for more than

 

3 days, has lost an organ, has become disable or dies. Actual

 

and necessary medical expenses must be paid but not

 

exceeding 35,000 Baht for a normal case and 50,000 Baht for a serious injury. The work rehabilitation expenses will be paid

 

as necessary according to the criteria, procedures and rates

 

prescribed by law but not exceeding 20,000 Baht. In case of

 

death, the funeral expenses will be paid at a maximum amount equal to 100 times of the minimum daily wage rate prescribed by law.

 

 

 

An employer with 10 or more regular employees is required to

 

contribute to the Compensation Fund maintained by the Office

 

of Workmen's Compensation Fund in the Social Security

 

Office. The Compensation Fund has been established in order

 

to directly indemnify employees who suffer injury, illness or

 

death as a result or in the performance of their work. The

 

employer must pay contributions by January 31st of the

 

following year at the rates prescribed by the Ministry of Labor

 

and Social Welfare.

 

 

 

 

 

All employees are entitled to unlimited sick leave, but the

 

number of paid leave shall not exceed 30 regular workdays

 

a year. The employer may require an employee to produce a

 

certificate from a qualified doctor for a sick leave of three daysor more.

 

 

 

An employee who has worked consecutively for one year is

 

entitled to at least 6 working days of paid vacation every year,

 

in addition to the 13 holidays in a year traditionally observed

 

in Thailand. A female employee is entitled to maternity leave

 

for a period of 90 days including holidays, but the number of

 

paid leave shall not exceed 45 days.

 

 

[Guest]

"Reason I ask is coz someone I know has been told of the 500K debt owed to the bank for a mortgage on a small mango farm, and two houses"

 

 

 

Doesn't seem to go cheap on the east part(Chonburi,Rayong).Know of a family who sold a little while ago

 

a land(probably with mango trees on it) with 2 houses for 24 millions baths.Don't know how big it was but while i was wondering how the family head could get hand of this land in the first place(Thammasat graduated but not from a rich family,thaught some english to young kids upcountry after graduating) I learned he's been working for the government(public welfare) for a while.As Gadfly said,don't underestimate the underground economy.And don't spit on corruption,better try to take advantage of it(How I'd love Cangkok's comfort with Cambodia's corruption!)

 

BTW in the book "Guns,Ganja,Girls,Gambling" it's said the average income in Isaan before the economic crisis was 12000baths a year,about twelve times less than in BKK.

 

 

[Guest]

"BTW in the book "Guns,Ganja,Girls,Gambling" it's said the average income in Isaan before the economic crisis was 12000baths a year,about twelve times less than in BKK. "

 

 

 

12Kbaht in '97 would have been 480 US Dollars at 25:1.