Guest Posted July 22, 2002 Report Share Posted July 22, 2002 concur with pattaya127. I think orandanodes has gotten too caught up in the "class" idea. It's one thing to comprehend it, it's another to start living by it. Nice step backwards there fella. We're not as retarded as you think we are. "To me its the inner person" oran... majority of your posts basically label all BGs and golddigging whores and are not to be trusted. Now that's an outer perception. again, some consistency please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 22, 2002 Report Share Posted July 22, 2002 >>>Offered, whats this?, can I assume by this the girl has no choice in who shes offered to. Are you for real or just on a wind up mission<<< sorry, used the wrong word. Shoud have said "introduced". whatever happens afterwards is up to the 2 of you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 22, 2002 Report Share Posted July 22, 2002 To be honest the only thing I think BG's are good for is to help you release sexual energy. Since I'd generally prefer not to eat and watch movies with a alone I'll take one with me. But I can't ever imagine marrying one or sending one money from abroad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 22, 2002 Report Share Posted July 22, 2002 just to give you a different point of view: my missus was not a bargirl or prostitute. but she is an upcountry girl, speaking with a thick northern accent, coming from a family of landless farmlabours. she gets looked down upon by the so called "polite" society here on a regular base, treated like shite. i come from a very upper class background. when i am going to europe my family treats my missus with the respect any human can expect. my father loves her as if she would be his own daughter even though their communication is limited. i really don't care about so called "upper" classes here in thailand, their pretensions, their arrogance, i do not want to be part of that class here, i would be ashamed being around people who treat others so bad. that is not the way i was brought up. if i would have been disrespectful in any way to the people who worked and lived in one of our farms my dad would have given me the worst hiding of my life. i have had once a very highly placed relative living in thailand. i refused to socialise with the politicians, top level businessmen and army brass he had to on a professional level. there were actually a few funny incidents. sometime i had some dinner with some rich arrogant fucks here, they treated me and my missus very arrogantly. only when someone on the table told them about my relative their attitude suddenly changed tremendously. they started sucking up to me 'coz my relative was hanging with the folks these guys would have loved be noticed. a disgrace, absolutely disgusting! i did not come here to suck up to, and be part of social class i anyhow belong to in my homecountry. i came here to live a free live. that means i live with the woman i love, and i socialise with the people i respect, and who respect me for who i am. that's it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJsushi Posted July 22, 2002 Report Share Posted July 22, 2002 This weeks column from Stickman pays much attention to the farang-BG relationships. [color:purple] Stick always pays alot of attention to BG-farang relationships. So what is new?color=purple> After so many years in Bangkok it still truly amazes me to see foreigners (tourist and expats alike) parading around their BG. For the short time tourist this has no lasting effect perhaps, but a farang living here should know better. The Thai class society can not be expressed better than in Stickman's column. If your are an executive with a company here and show up with your BG-GF at a Thai party, then you've lost all respect once and for all. And when she joins in any conversation, all possible doubts are definetely removed. [color:purple] What is the problem with farangs parading around BG's? It makes them happy. Ever go to Vegas or L.A. and see rich men and celebrities parade around groupies, professional escorts, playmates and porn stars? What's the difference? Who really gives a crap except for those who tend to get offended by such behavior. The key word you are using is FARANG. I think a farang who tries to conform to Thai society to the point where he wants to be THAI is a sad individual. A farang should know that regardless of his language skills,GTG that he marries and observance of cultural customs, he can only climb so high within the Thai social structure simply based on the fact that he is not THAI. Do you really think that the exec that shows up with a BG at a high society event really gives a crap about being respected by the high-brow Thai? He probably knows he can get away with it because his time in the country will be a short duration or he considers the Thais to be a bunch of inferior 3rd worlders or he knows he has enough cash to not give a shit what they think. I am sure his attitude is "Fuck those Thais! I will be back in my own country soon. I will do what I want!" . Personally I can give two shits about impressing higher status Thais . I do enough social climbing in my own country where I completely understand the game. I would be a fool to go to Thailand to social climb in a game in which I don't even have a shot at winning. The only thing I would care about is people who are considered my true friends regardless of class distinction color=purple> Thais can smell a BG miles away, so please don't think that yours is different. [color:purple] My BG is different because SHE IS WITH ME! color=purple> And then look at the lines of farang tourists with their BG-GF's at Western Embassies. Why is it that so many are willing to get married with a prostitute that they have know for perhaps a few week or so. Most couples can barely communicate with each other. How can you fall in love with a girl who has stated her love for you after a few days of paid services. Get real, she doesn't love you. [color:purple] I think any guy marrying a woman after a week or 2 is either a fool or an extremely good judge of character. The problem is not that the girl is a prostitute. The problem is that a guy is marrying a girl he doesn' know shit about beyond the fact that she is a prostitute. A guy could marry the Duchess of York after one date only to have the relationship end in flames because he doesn't know squat about her. Don't confuse the issues. Marriage to a prostitute does not equal failure. Marriage to a non-prostitute does not equate to success. Knowing who you are marrying and a willingness to work as a team gives you a fighting chance. Glad I got all of that off of MY chest. This should turn into a decent thread. Re-hashed controversial topics usually do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 22, 2002 Report Share Posted July 22, 2002 omfg.... I agree with flyonzewall. fuck... armageddon is coming I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJsushi Posted July 22, 2002 Report Share Posted July 22, 2002 Most of my Thai male friends have mia noi's, who will come along when the boys go out at night in places they don't go with the family. In fact they are all quite surprised that I never bring a mia noi along and offer frequently to find me the right one [color:purple] Sorry to say that you haven't learned much in all of your years there. Just by you not participating with the women in the way that your "friends" do keeps you an outsider. Sure, they may still genuinely like you as a person but you are not accepted 100% because you are not playing the "game". Your friends are surprised because they don't understand your behavior. Especially if they try and fix you up. Your just a good farang friend, ironically no different than a good farang customer. This is not Thai specific behavior but male behavior worldwide. color=purple> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanukdee Posted July 22, 2002 Report Share Posted July 22, 2002 Yeah to heck with the Thai upper class high society elitisist. There is only one thing worse then a snob and that is a Thai snob. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJsushi Posted July 22, 2002 Report Share Posted July 22, 2002 Oh you can be truly welcomed. I never feel like the odd man out when going out with my Thai friends. I'm often the only non-Thai, but seldom feel that way. I have no business relations with most of them and am not expected to pay more than they do. In fact most are financially much better off, so there's no reason. They're just goods friends like I would have back in my own country, if only I had stayed there long enough. [color:purple] Get a grip my friend. What YOU feel is not neccessarily your FRIENDS reality. You can be welcomed but not completely ACCEPTED because you are not Thai. There is a part of the collective Thai culture and consciousnes that you will never be able to understand. Let me help you understand. YOU ARE A FARANG. color=purple> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pattaya127 Posted July 22, 2002 Report Share Posted July 22, 2002 Thanks, i was afraid you were going to say a french snob. Now, don't start.... back on topic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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