pattaya127 Posted July 23, 2002 Report Share Posted July 23, 2002 Problem for many is that they think after only a short period that they've finally found their true love, whereas this is not mutual. He is blinded by her, and forgets to look around him and truly see that "his true and only love" is in fact everyones love. -------------------------- you can't but have a point with this. I wonder out of the 100 000s farang coming to LOS for the nightlife, how many fit that description, though. I can hardly say 1000, but i have met and known about dozens of farang/bgs couples, and i do not know too many guys who raced blind into the wall. I know a few sad stories, but there was more to it than a farang freshly arrived wide-eyes shut. In Pattaya, we have what we call the 3 day rule. basically, for 3 days, all is perfect, and then she starts acting up, or discrepancies between what she says and what you see start, the first hints of her real personality show up, etc.... It does not mean she is bad 100%, but you just wisen up quick to the circus around you, and learn the ropes. I am sure many farangs are oblivious to these warning signals, but, as i say, in general, they are not. About the "rivalry" between Pattaya and BKK girls, you often hear in P: "BKK girl no good, not take care man", and in BKK: "P girl stupid, love man too much, give sex no money". The few BKK girl i met in Pattaya on the week-end were indeed very professional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Hippie Posted July 23, 2002 Report Share Posted July 23, 2002 Lots of opinions here, Basically, I think the first perception of a Farang w/ a Thai girl is, she is a prostitute. I have hung out with many "good girls" (a rediculus term of sorts) and they say this is a general first perception, one they leran to accept. I have been told that in ANY UPPER ECHALON regaurdless of what country, your spouse can do you in career wise, So I don't think fair to blame it on Thais alone. As for the men who choose to marry bgs, so what? who really cares? I don't. A guy at our local wat married what many agree is most likely a former bg. They are happy, and that is all that matters. She seems to accepted by many of the Thai women there, at least on the serfuce. If this marrage fails, it will do so mainly because the guy is a bit of jerk (my personal opinion) and not because she was (maybe) a bg. I have always asked, and never gotten an answer, is it worse to be the customer or the BG? Men come the LOS for all sorts of reasons, some guys are just plain losers who can't get a date (personal experience here:)) and so they fall for, or accept the first or cutest girl they find and think they can trust. For these guys it is easy, hassle free way to get a wife, if even for a short while, they have the Asian cutie they can't get at home. Some oe guys meet a girl on one trip, and build up a relationship over several trips, and then take the risk. For these guys it may or may not work out, same with any marrage, regardless of the girls background. I don't think it is anyone's place to condem any man for the choices he makes simply because you think you will/would not do the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 23, 2002 Report Share Posted July 23, 2002 well said OH. "Men come the LOS for all sorts of reasons, some guys are just plain losers who can't get a date (personal experience here:)) and so they fall for, or accept the first or cutest girl they find and think they can trust. For these guys it is easy, hassle free way to get a wife, if even for a short while, they have the Asian cutie they can't get at home." this is a very integral point. imho, this is the main reason for failed relationships, BG or GTG. guys come to los with an idealization in their heads. reason and practicality goes out the fucking window. rather than the girl's fault(being a BG or otherwise), it's the guy's inflated generalizations, rationailizations, and idealizations of their expectations. lot's of -tions i said it before and i'll say it again, if you can't maintain a relationship in your own homeland, wtf makes you think that los would be any different. if anything, you have more obstacles in terms of culture and mindset. don't blame the girl's integrity and such if you yourself know that you can't even get a fucking date back home. it's just retarded to see guys posting and deeming all BG's character into shit. like OH said, WE are the "john" after all. so our integrity isn't that intact in that mindset. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatbastard Posted July 23, 2002 Report Share Posted July 23, 2002 Fly and Thalenoi, I'm with on both counts, when I was working here in my former life as a corporate stuffed shirt I had to socialise and do business with customers at the moneyed end of Thai society and in general they are a facilile and superficial lot always pratterling on about there jaunts overseas and their "connections". Whereas most of the people who I worked with were middle class and in the main a fine lot. I would sooner spend a evening with a bunch of Issan buffalo herders than the crooked and shallow who proport to be Thailands "elite class" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gummigut Posted July 24, 2002 Report Share Posted July 24, 2002 Jasmine: I am sorry to hear about your friend's experience. Yes there is stratification in any society but I would have to say the degree is much much much less in America than here in Thailand, but it's there nevertheless. Your friend's problems was rooted in the husband's insecurity. If given the right support "Pim" could have "fit in." To me it seems much harder to change "classes" in Thailand. I traveled in some wacked out circles in America. At my bosses athletic club you had to wear white. Stripes on socks was a no no and enough to get you thrown out. I also showed up at a barbecue in casual clothes. Little did I know an invitation in that neighborhood meant formal attire for a barbecue. Well, one of these guys had a wife from a third world country and this guy got tons of shit. His wife give some cooking classes to the other wives and a coworker. The comments didn't stop but they decreased dramatically and there was only ribbing behind the comments and no longer any rancor. The worst thing Pim's husband did, IMO, was withdraw her from socializing with his peers because they then can go solely on their own prejudice. That sort of problem doesn't just happen with foreigners, it happens with wives who have no "social manners" as well. Don't want this post to be taken as pro-american anti-thailand because America has other problems that thailand seems to handle much better. This post is meant to say that I think your friend's sad story was more about the husband having much less of a committment to the relationship than Pim. <<burp>> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJsushi Posted July 24, 2002 Report Share Posted July 24, 2002 I concur. The piece of shit husband instead of helping his wife and education her so that she could adapt to his new social circles castigated and abandoned her because she didn't live up to his newfound ideals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJsushi Posted July 24, 2002 Report Share Posted July 24, 2002 I concur. The piece of shit husband instead of helping his wife and education her so that she could adapt to his new social circles castigated and abandoned her because she didn't live up to his newfound ideals. Amazing how Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 24, 2002 Report Share Posted July 24, 2002 >Stripes on socks was a no no and enough to get you thrown out. < jeezas, the last time i wore socks was a year ago, but only because i was way up in the himalaya and had to wear mountain boots. i can't remember the time before that when i wore socks. guess i would not have been allowed in that club... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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