doris day Posted February 18, 2011 Report Share Posted February 18, 2011 Been reading thru the symptoms of Hiv on the net and the timeframes of when the first symptoms appear etc and it's dead on with what happend to my body. I spent my first two nights in angeles city in the PI and mostly due to alcohol but also due to stupidity I didn't wear a raincoat. For those not in the know angeles city is the bastion of those who don't like to wear a rubber and the girls (from my experiences) rarely ask to use them either. So, after my first two nights I slept with 3 girls (a 3some on the first night) and with one of those girls I ripped off the condom and fucked her. The second night I just didn't bother with the condom with that girl and she never asked for one. This is of course is incredibly stupid and foolhardy. Anyway, after leaving angeles I went to Cebu for about a week then off to an island for christmas. After about 7 or 8 days I woke up with a really sore throat that made me feel like i had a ball in my throat. It was quite uncomfortable although it quickly receded to a level I would call annoying rather than painful. My neck under my jaw was swollen and sore and I had muscle aches. I also had a mild fever. I remember thinking at the time that something was really wrong with me. It wasn't that I felt that bad...in fact your common flu would make you feel worse than I did but I had that nagging feeling. I rationalised how I was feeling and thought about the possibilities to why I was feeling this way. The bars on the islands just wash out your glasses under the tap, basically just rinsing them before using them for another customer. So I figured that maybe I had caught a bug from the water and that was causing all the symptoms as my body was reacting to a bit of an infection. I returned to Cebu and I felt o.k but the symptoms were still there albeit in a very mild way that wasn't interfering at all in my day to day activities. I didn't feel 100% by any means but as I said before I felt good enough. After a few days the persistence of the tickle in the throat was annoying me so I went to the effort of finding a doctor. I spoke to the very old doctor and told him my story. He seemed very unconcerned and felt my neck and told me he couldn't feel any swelling on my neck. There was no doubt the area under my neck was swollen and sore so I was perplexed by his lack of concern. He told me to gargle with betadine or even listerine and the throat problem would go away. I insisted again that I thought it was more serious but again he seemed unconcerned. i left thinking that maybe I was overreacting, after all I felt 95% and when you consider how much I was drinking and partying everyday getting a little sick was probably inevitable. I did that and the throat problem dissapeared to a large extent but there was still a bit of a tickle now and then and I was still running a little 'hot'. In fact my bed partners over the next few weeks all remarked that I had a fever. I became worried again. I realised I was popping a viagra a day and maybe that was what was making me hotter than usual. I stopped taking the pills and I noticed my fever reduced. But as my trip went on I kept drinking and getting little sleep so I went back on them and the fever felt like it was there a little bit on and off. I was also getting headaches but as I was perpetually hungover it's hard to pinpoint why you have a headache. I was feeling like I had less energy than usual but again with all the drinking and not much sleeping and my diet was really poor I put it down to that. By the last few days of my 5 week journey I was knackered. I felt absolutely stuffed and I ached all over to a reasonable extent. I wasn't bedridden or anything but I just didn't feel too great. After I got home i had a long sleep and the aches went away. O.k so that's the summary of how I felt. If you google the symptoms of Hiv they will say sore throat, swollen nodes in neck and or groin, fatigue, headaches, and the possibility of things like open sores in the mouth and rashes. I am convinced I have Hiv based on timing of when i got sick..ie. 7 or 8 days after contact, and the symptoms which went on for about two weeks. Combine that with barebacking in the barebacking capital of Asia and I'd say there's a really good chance I've caught it. In the past when I may have barebacked one girl during my whole trip I'd go to the doctor and he'd tell me I was silly but he was always upbeat about it. This time the doctor was actually quite pessimistic from the start and I didn't tell him about the symptoms I outlined above because he kept talking and I didn't recall those symptoms at the time of the consult. I'm extremely worried right now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh_Hoy Posted February 18, 2011 Report Share Posted February 18, 2011 Wait until 3 months after your suspected acquisition and have the blood test at a reputable clinic/hospital. But don't take one lab test as being accurate. Go to 2 or 3 different labs. I know one bar girl who tested positive, only to find out years later, that result was bogus. You can imagine her frame of mind over the intervening years. HH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StoneSoup Posted February 18, 2011 Report Share Posted February 18, 2011 What you are describing is a healthy immune system, fighting back against a bacterial or viral infection. "HIV" doesn't attack your organs - the only thing "it" attacks (literally) is T-cells. Supposedly, once it has wiped out enough T-cells, your body can no longer defend itself, and other opportunistic infections then go to town attacking whatever organ they target. There is no way that any reported HIV infection could have destroyed enough T-cells to affect your health in the time-frame you describe. So - you can set your panic aside. What you evidently do have is some direct infection that has caused your lymphatic system to go into active defense mode. Infection is bad - the fact that your body is waging war against it is good. If it is a bacterial infection, and you can identify the bacteria, you can then receive antibiotics to help your body kill off the bacterial invaders. If it is a viral infection, you just have to sit back and let your body slug it out, and slowly create enough antibodies to destroy the invading viruses. In either case, the best way you can help your body win the battle that it is waging is to eat well, sleep well, and follow the "signals" that your body gives you, about how to behave. Good luck! SS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rookie Posted February 18, 2011 Report Share Posted February 18, 2011 A good reply by StoneSoup. Further, if there's really an HIV viral load, it seldom enough to be detected within the first month of infection. It can take as much as 6-months or more before the standard ELISA test detects the virus. And, of course, the test can be a false positive, hence a second or third test may be warranted. Like StoneSoup indicated, it may well be a common viral or bacterial infection that you're dealing with, especially if the lymphatic system is affected. In the meantime...have your fun under 'wraps' or limited to BJ's, unless you plan on joining a monastery... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashermac Posted February 18, 2011 Report Share Posted February 18, 2011 You're a gem, Soupy. Hope all is well. :thumbup: Some years ago one of the best looking dancers in Bangkok was told she was HIV positive. That shook us up, both for obvious reasons and because we liked her. The guys took her to a first rate clinic - and it turned out she had diabetes! Not something you want, but a lot easier to think about. I met another guy who was told he was HIV positive by a Thai doc. He flew back to the States, where his tests came up negative. Never trust just one doctor - anywhere and in any country. They are always making an educated guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
expat Posted February 18, 2011 Report Share Posted February 18, 2011 I have bad news for you Doris Day. You really do have a problem. It's called hypochondria! Congrats on the good news from StoneSoup. Edit: in the infinitesimal chance you actually turn out HIV positive, I apologize in advance for my distasteful remark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panadolsandwich Posted February 18, 2011 Report Share Posted February 18, 2011 So, after my first two nights I slept with 3 girls (a 3some on the first night) and with one of those girls I ripped off the condom and fucked her. The second night I just didn't bother with the condom with that girl and she never asked for one. This is of course is incredibly stupid and foolhardy. Not to mention extremely irresponsible and extraordinarily selfish. I do sincerely hope you don't have the virus however. Why don't you reflect on these things whilst you wait for the test results? Cut down on the sauce, stay well away from viagra and buy a case of condoms. I agree with the above though and you are most likely are being paranoid. I sincerely hope this experience changes your future exploits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LizardKing Posted February 18, 2011 Report Share Posted February 18, 2011 You're a gem, Soupy. Hope all is well. :thumbup: I haven't seen you since the dinner on Soi Convent with UAL and others celebrating his condo purchase. We should go out for drinks sometime. PM me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redbaron Posted February 18, 2011 Report Share Posted February 18, 2011 Far be it my role to give a lecture on safe sex practices and the dangers of it (see junglesoup's thread, 2nd sticky from top in this GD forum), but take it as a learning experience. I had similar symptoms when I caught some kind of infection whilst trekking through one of the jungles in LOS. All shit aside, and I realise heat of the moment/drunken stuff happens, but IMO bareback riding should only be done by 'couples'.. Not just HIV but there's the hep's which can fuck your life as well as a host of other 'conditions' out there. Not to start on the unwanted pregnancies etc, just because it feels better, and the irresponsible girl wants a better tip, or to leave her mark... Good luck matey, hopefully it's just what i had, which antibiotics killed relatively easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozpharlap Posted February 18, 2011 Report Share Posted February 18, 2011 So DD, is the real reason for your other post "I am done with Thailand" based on the stress you have experienced because of the perceived problems that you have disclosed in this thread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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