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It's a dilemma for sure, tell the everyone what you know, as good and sensible citizen of the world, then get whacked on the head. or Live a quiet life and see wrongs that you could do something about.

Hickey and Boggs 1972 - Bill Cosby, Robert Culp, not bad, as previously mentioned - worth a watch. I Origins 2014 - started like a bunch of young girly film students would make a movie, got better, then quite good, then tailed off. Worth a watch if you ever need to have justification to give the director a slap. Pineapple Express 2008 - James Franco and Seth Rogen - pot heads - worth a watch.

Maybe they just want access to future potential markets in LOS and Cambo, who knows. It doesn't make a lot of sense to me...

I liked the 6-7 houses, reminded me of rural Thailand, oh wait...

Hang on, they're screaming doom and gloom (or rather doom and hellfire) on data that shows that 2014 is the warmest year on record since 1880. Gosh, even though the planet has been much warmer in the past (see graph below), before we used petrol, before 1880, we must be doomed because the graph line is pointing up a bit at the moment. " Nasa, which calculates temperatures slightly differently, put 2014's average temperature at 14.7C, which is 0.67C above their average, which they calculate for 1951-1980. Earth broke NOAA records set in 2010 and 2005. The last time the Earth set an annual NOAA cold record was in 1911." Hang on, there's been a record for cold? so in this time frame you can have a "Coldest" ? So in 135 years, there's been a hottest and a coldest, mmmmmm... 135 years of data in a 10,000 (approx) year warm period, that's like basing 24 hours of anything, on 19 minutes of observation. Very thorough. Splendiferous. Magnificent. Got to get a prize for that, oh wait Al Gore already did. What happens if the next 19 minutes of data don't agree with the first 19 minutes?

Looks like you were right all along, http://www.stuff.co....limate-analyses 2014 hottest year recorded on Earth - US climate analyses We're doomed, prepare to fry, flames are already licking at our doors.

The Chinese have negotiated with the Lao Authorities, who, are taking out loans that amount to 80% of GDP to fund the Lao leg. This line seems to provide access to seawater ports for China. Oh and Yingy will get fresh vegetables

Some of the current CO2 increases are caused by burning fossil fuels. Not all. Then the Permafrost contribution argument must be, according to you, untrue.

Citations please...

Meanwhile in Huntly NZ, nothing happened...

http://stablelodge.com a short stagger down Soi 8 nice pool one of my favourites - has been known to accept travelling circus at 3 in the morning

"But you did! You brought up the permafrost reductions as the cause for CO2 increase." I brought up that, as an example of the Egg and Chicken argument. Which one causes the other? I don't know the answer, I just propose an alternate explanation to the perceived status quo. ​And my saying that "CO2 increases with the use of fossil fuels" it does.' is not the same as saying "permafrost reductions are the cause for CO2 increase". One is about fossil fuels - the other is about Permafrost.

Here are some --- Obama’s Top Science Advisor Warned In 1971 that a New Ice Age Was an Imminent Threat … "John Holdren is now not only the “Science Czar†for the United States, but he’s also one of the original leaders of the “alarmist†wing of the Global Warming debate — and he now promotes the notion that the current climate data points to a looming planetary overheating catastrophe of unimaginable dimensions. (He helped make the charts and graphs for Al Gore’s film An Inconvenient Truth, for example.)" --- An older one 1958 How a rising of the ocean waters may flood most of our port cities within the foreseeable future — and why it will be followed by the growth of a vast glacier which may eventually cover much of Europe and North America. --- Newsweek 1975 scan of the page at the link --- A letter to Nixon - In 1972, two scientists – George J. Kukla (of the Lamont-Doherty Geological Observatory) and R. K. Matthews (Chairman, Dept of Geological Sciences, Brown University) – wrote the following "Dear Mr. President: Aware of your deep concern with the future of the world, we feel obliged to inform you on the results of the scientific conference held here recently. The conference dealt with the past and future changes of climate and was attended by 42 top American and European investigators. We enclose the summary report published in Science and further publications are forthcoming in Quaternary Research. The main conclusion of the meeting was that a global deterioration of climate, by order of magnitude larger than any hitherto experience by civilized mankind, is a very real possibility and indeed may be due very soon. The cooling has natural cause and falls within the rank of processes which produced the last ice age. This is a surprising result based largely on recent studies of deep sea sediments. Existing data still do not allow forecast of the precise timing of the predicted development, nor the assessment of the man’s interference with the natural trends. It could not be excluded however that the cooling now under way in the Northern Hemisphere is the start of the expected shift. The present rate of the cooling seems fast enough to bring glacial temperatures in about a century, if continuing at the present pace...................." --- On June 24, 1974, Time Magazine wrote an article entitled “Another Ice Age?†which stated: As they review the bizarre and unpredictable weather pattern of the past several years, a growing number of scientists are beginning to suspect that many seemingly contradictory meteorological fluctuations are actually part of a global climatic upheaval. However widely the weather varies from place to place and time to time, when meteorologists take an average of temperatures around the globe they find that the atmosphere has been growing gradually cooler for the past three decades. The trend shows no indication of reversing. Climatological Cassandras are becoming increasingly apprehensive, for the weather aberrations they are studying may be the harbinger of another ice age. Telltale signs are everywhere … Whatever the cause of the cooling trend, its effects could be extremely serious, if not catastrophic. Scientists figure that only a 1% decrease in the amount of sunlight hitting the earth’s surface could tip the climatic balance, and cool the planet enough to send it sliding down the road to another ice age within only a few hundred years. --- Science News wrote an article in 1975 called “Chilling Possibilitiesâ€warning of a new ice age. --- A May 21, 1975 article in the New York Times again stated: Sooner or later a major cooling of the climate is widely considered inevitable. --- And so on...

This one shows CO2 and warming events, not as linear as most would believe.

I like this one - Source: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Five_Myr_Climate_Change.png

One more - Temperature vs Time Source: https://wattsupwiththat.files.wordpress.com/2014/09/entire_earth_history_record.gif

And another - Continental Flooding, Temperature and CO2 Source: http://www.biocab.org/SL_and_CO2.jpg

Here's an interesting graph, CO2 vs Temperature Source: http://www.biocab.or..._Timescale.html

I've already said - 'I don't argue against "CO2 increases with the use of fossil fuels" it does.' I just don't buy into the assertion that the world will end because of human influence. It's difficult to find this data exactly, which should be no surprise given the media's slavish 'believer' stance. But this graph demonstrates the assertion. Quite a famous one it seems. http://theinconvenie...-core-analysis/ "Taylor Dome is a local ice-accumulation area that is part of the East Antarctic ice sheet. It is a ridge about 20 by 80 km just inland of the Transantarctic Mountains and provides ice to outlet glaciers entering Taylor Valley and McMurdo Sound. Deep drilling at Taylor Dome successfully reached bedrock at a depth of 554 meters during the 1993-1994 austral summer season at latitude 77°47'47'' S, longitude 158°43'26'' E, elevation 2365 m above sea level. The Taylor Dome ice core is only the second core (after Vostok) to provide a stratigraphically undisturbed record through the entire last glacial cycle (that is, the last 130,000 years or more) It has the advantage over many other Antarctic cores in being relatively shallow (554 meters), meaning that gas bubbles trapped in the ice have not reached pressures sufficient to cause significant clathrate formation, even for ice that is pre-Holocene (greater than ~11,000 years) in age. This has enabled researchers to obtain what are likely the best CO2 and delta 13C of CO2 measurements ever made of the ancient atmosphere." http://www.ncdc.noaa...lor/taylor.html and http://nsidc.org/dat..._ahn/index.html 55555 now that sums up 'Thainess'

I don't know the odds on a meteor hitting us soon, but it would make a mess, that's for sure. You've hit on good point, humans would adapt, but I think what's at stake here is Al Gore's sliced white bread lifestyle. I just watched a movie 'Deep Impact' where just such an event happened, but it's OK, despite some considerable damage, Morgan Freeman led 'merica and the land of the free survived. Actually a reasonable good portrayal of what would happen. The space hijinx were bit far fetched though. I'll try and dig out some articles, I don't intend to mislead, I'll report back.

One assumes this is a 'marriage' a wedding photo - -terrible

Thanks Bust, not often I get to see a 'real' article on these matters

One or two might have good personalities, but what's with the eye widening? If it's surgical, they'll look terrible in another 15 years. Specifically number 41.