Torneyboy Posted November 20, 2003 Report Share Posted November 20, 2003 Hi Ha ha . Rugby League has a one point for a field(drop) goal..and they use every chance they get,,,go in at half time one point ahead etc. Leave the rule in IMO. England coach Clive Woodward said today""Australia has seen nothing yet...we can play really boring rugby if we want"" I get paid to win..and to win we can play boring football if we want". He has had the teams hotel and dressing rooms at the ground searched for listening devices London Saturday cloudy min12c max 16. Sydney Rain 23c Home away from home for the poms IMO Oz are not running scared..its all tactics. THe State premier has asked all employers to allow staff to wear Green and Gold to work Friday and saturday :: My girls will wear the jersey(only) ha ha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 20, 2003 Report Share Posted November 20, 2003 Says torneyboy: Hi All Blacks V France Not much at all in the papers about this game Thusday night. Still a great game in the making IMO. PRIDE if nothing else..there will be blood on the floor in NZ next week...but if they lose this game....a New name ""The All Reds""...from the blood letting I don't believe; 33 - 13 for NZ after 60 minutes. Too sad they were back to their real strength too late.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 20, 2003 Report Share Posted November 20, 2003 OK, NZ at least third. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torneyboy Posted November 20, 2003 Report Share Posted November 20, 2003 Says Peter1964: OK, NZ at least third. Hi Peter Yes NZ third. They won 6 tries to 1....no drop goals btw. Englanders....no drop goals..good running rugby. :: 1.4mill through the gates(new record for world cup rugby) so far...very big success I think the all blacks needed the win ..save face and contracts back home IMHO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 20, 2003 Report Share Posted November 20, 2003 Says torneyboy: I think the all blacks needed the win ..save face and contracts back home IMHO Imo, they have deserved more than a third place (at least being in the final). But it is the same as with soccer, not always the best team gets a good classification (e.g. Germany during the last world cup), especially in a tournament. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torneyboy Posted November 20, 2003 Report Share Posted November 20, 2003 Hi Peter Very true. But NZ lost to OZ.. the better team won on the night...not a pretty game but NZ lost the plot and hence the game. They have saved some face tonight...however thier press will still want blood..again imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 21, 2003 Report Share Posted November 21, 2003 Says torneyboy: But NZ lost to OZ.. the better team won on the night...not a pretty game but NZ lost the plot and hence the game. Yep. true. Let's look forward to saturday! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 21, 2003 Report Share Posted November 21, 2003 If the Wallabies are to win on Saturday they are going to have to take control of the game early, not just in terms of possession and territory but to convert those advantages into points. I cant see them defending a narrow lead or coming from behind, England are too strong at the end of a game. Dont forget England can play some great running rugby too, that's how they beat Australia a couple of months ago. It will be a great occasion on Saturday and hopefully a great game. I have said all along that England have too much class and that will tell in the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kman Posted November 21, 2003 Report Share Posted November 21, 2003 Says torneyboy: Englanders....no drop goals..good running rugby. I dunno, but you lot seem to be quite infatuated by all of this, and seem to be adopting the stance that if we do win then it will only because England were boring and JW kicked the cup back to England. Quite frankly in a way, with all your press hysteria, I hope it is a boring final and Jonny boy kicks all our winning points. However from a spectators point of view hopefully it will be an exciting match, but ... winning is what counts at the end of the day and if its a kicking match what goes around comes around, to quote Sayjaan .. hhmm i see 2 things in the papers today which are interesting.England were knocked out of the last WC because someone kicked a World record 5 drop goals against them. and in the 1999 semi-final the Aussies won by an extra-time drop goal from all of halfway. that kick was described as a thing of 'rare beauty' oh and to Racha .. Nice to see your guys put them Frogs in their place and get some sort of respect back .. and The Cavalry is on the way Anyway All, enjoy the weekend .. An England victory, 3pts for the Gooners and a blowout from Bubbles .. Cheers K. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sayjann Posted November 21, 2003 Report Share Posted November 21, 2003 here are the odds on the game from my on-line bookies. Handicap England -5 10/11 Australia +5 10/11 Tie 16/1 Outright England 4/7 Australia 13/10 Match Betting England 3/5 Draw 20/1 Australia 11/8 Half-time/Full-time England/England 11/10 England/Draw 66/1 England/Australia 7/1 bet Draw/England 18/1 bet Draw/Draw 100/1 bet Draw/Australia 20/1 bet Australia/England 5/1 bet Australia/Draw 66/1 bet Australia/Australia 12/5 bet 1st Tryscorer 1: Bill Young 80/1 2: Brendan Cannon 50/1 3: Allister Baxter 80/1 4: Justin Harrison 66/1 5: Nathan Sharpe 80/1 6: George Smith 25/1 7: Phil Waugh 28/1 8: David Lyons 28/1 9: George Gregan 28/1 10: Stephen Larkham 20/1 11: Lote Tuqiri 14/1 12: Elton Flatley 20/1 13: Stirling Mortlock 16/1 14: Wendell Sailor 14/1 15: Mat Rogers 18/1 1: Trevor Woodman 80/1 2: Steve Thompson 33/1 3: Phil Vickery 80/1 4: Martin Johnson 50/1 5: Ben Kay 50/1 6: Richard Hill 20/1 7: Neil Back 20/1 8: Lawrence Dallaglio 25/1 9: Matt Dawson 22/1 10: Jonny Wilkinson 25/1 11: Ben Cohen 12/1 12: Mike Tindall 16/1 13: Will Greenwood 12/1 14: Jason Robinson 12/1 15: Josh Lewsey 16/1 No Tryscorer 14/1 1st Scoring Play England Try 11/2 Australia Try 7/1 England Penalty 13/8 Australia Penalty 13/8 Any Drop Goal 11/2 No Score 1500/1 Winning Margins 1 England to win by 1-5 9/2 England to win by 6-10 5/1 England to win by 11-15 15/2 England to win by 16-20 10/1 England to win by 21-25 16/1 England to win by 26-30 25/1 England to win by 31-35 33/1 Australia to win by 1-5 5/1 Australia to win by 6-10 13/2 Australia to win by 11-15 10/1 Australia to win by 16-20 16/1 Australia to win by 21-25 22/1 Australia to win by 26-30 33/1 Australia to win by 31-35 50/1 Draw 20/1 bet Winning Margins 2 Australia by over 10 7/2 Australia by 1-10 5/2 bet Draw 20/1 England by 1-10 9/5 England by 11-20 3/1 England by over 20 8/1 Total England Tries Under 2 Tries 11/8 Exactly 2 Tries 5/2 Over 2 Tries 13/8 Total Australia Tries Under 2 Tries 11/10 Exactly 2 Tries 5/2 Over 2 Tries 2/1 To Score A Try At Anytime 1: Bill Young 16/1 bet 2: Brendan Cannon 10/1 bet 3: Allister Baxter 16/1 bet 4: Justin Harrison 12/1 bet 5: Nathan Sharpe 16/1 bet 6: George Smith 5/1 bet 7: Phil Waugh 11/2 bet 8: David Lyons 11/2 bet 9: George Gregan 11/2 bet 10: Stephen Larkham 4/1 bet 11: Lote Tuqiri 11/4 bet 12: Elton Flatley 4/1 bet 13: Stirling Mortlock 10/3 bet 14: Wendell Sailor 11/4 bet 15: Mat Rogers 7/2 bet 1: Trevor Woodman 16/1 bet 2: Steve Thompson 13/2 bet 3: Phil Vickery 16/1 bet 4: Martin Johnson 10/1 bet 5: Ben Kay 10/1 bet 6: Richard Hill 4/1 bet 7: Neil Back 4/1 bet 8: Lawrence Dallaglio 5/1 bet 9: Matt Dawson 9/2 bet 10: Jonny Wilkinson 5/1 bet 11: Ben Cohen 12/5 bet 12: Mike Tindall 10/3 bet 13: Will Greenwood 12/5 bet 14: Jason Robinson 12/5 bet 15: Josh Lewsey 10/3 bet Tryscorer Treble 1 Robinson, Cohen & Lewsey all to score 50/1 bet Tryscorer Treble 2 Rogers, Sailor & Tuqiri all to score 80/1 bet Team to score 1st Try England 4/5 bet Australia evens bet No Tryscorer 14/1 bet Team to score 1st point England 4/5 bet Australia 10/11 bet No Score 1000/1 bet i wonder what the odds are on JW scoring all of Englands points again?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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