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[kamui]

Hi Fly,

welcome back from good ole Germany. I hope you brought some nice bottles of wine and box of Bavarian beer with you.

 

I do the diet because of the fantastic Christmas cookies my mother made. And I don't want to buy a complete set a of new trousers, what I needed to do, if I would keep my weight.

 

By the way. This diet is not so hard to follow. For example, today I was in another town for my monthly teaching job. After four hours with my students I was hungry and waiting for the train back home I went to Mc Donalds and had a salad with oil and vinegar and burger "royal cheese". I just didn't eat the loafs of bread and of course no french fries. I can eat any meat, but of course I have to avoid almost all sweats at the moment, except self made wobble pudding with whipped cream (with Nutrasweet).

 

Certainly I don't plan to follow this diet for longer than two months, and as I said, I will start slowly to add some carbs every week.

[Guest]

just had a good portion of swiss chocolate.

 

 

i have never found it difficult to lose weight, happens automatically in the hot climate here. two three weeks and i will be back on 80 kg, if i would do a bit of hard work i'll be on 78 kg. same with sport - a few weeks of doing something and it shows.

 

but diet - NO WAY!!!

[Guest]

Aktins phase I means fat and protein, but only 10gr!!! carbs a day (ca. 65-70% fat, 30% protein and 1-5% carbs)

 

Just a bit off tangent, but the Atkins diet is pretty bad for your health. 70% fat = good? Don't think so. It's a metabolic trick. It's well known that if you "normalize" your diet after an Atkins diet(meaning you're not eating like a high metabolic predator like a cheetah), you gain all the weight back and then some.

 

Atkins Diet is a retarded perversion of cutting down on high glycemic carbs and futzing with insulin levels. Westerners have been "addicted" to high glycemic carbs for a long fucking time. Processed cookie snacks, fast food, pastries, etc.

 

Without going further into detail why atkins is the suck. Go (40/40/20 protein/carbs/fat) Protein consisting mainly of chicken and fish, red meat ok 2 or 3 times a week. For carbs, if you MUST have high glycemic carbs like potatos or white rice, make it the same size portion as your protein. Also, if you're really trying to loose weight, eat 5 to 6 SMALL meals/day. Consisting of 1 serving of protein and 1 serving of carbs. Veggies are carbs too, most are low glycemic as well so you can double the servings for those. Otherwise an equal serving.

 

Atkins diet would be ideal if people were still hunter/gatherers, but we're not. We're sedentary livestock just getting "fattened" up.

[iono]

Well, I don't want to dispute the Atkins?s plan nor the high carb low carb thing. I personally could not maintain the high protein thing for any extended period of time, so I went the opposite direction. I checked out the links Kumi gave and there is some good info on all them (looking for a decent program), I took some of the exercises from the Muscle and fitness challenge and have upped my Aerobic time to one hour plus a day everyday maybe skipping twice a week. To curtail my ravenous appetite I've become Mr. Salad if I'm hungry I eat salad; I also drink one protein mix a day (chocolate fix). However, I've stopped eating meat, when I do this it makes me aware of all the crap I put in my mouth and I seem to eat a lot healthier, I'm not giving it up just cutting way back, from this point forward maybe once a month and it will be chicken. I've dropped 6 solid pounds in 2 1/2 weeks (not just water). I guess we all have to find what will work for the individual and their lifestyle, as far as being sedentary cows, man you got that right, the only hunting gathering I?m doing is at the grocery store and it?s not a bad life. ::

[Guest]

iono,

 

That bodyforlife.com link that kamui posted is the best, safest, and most balanced program IMHO. I know of folks who were like the before/after photos on that program.

 

Dunno if supersetting is good for people starting out on the weight program tho... Perhaps for the first 4 weeks, just cut the last 2X12reps to failure. You'll be sore enough with the rest of the workout sets.

[kamui]

iono said:

However, I've stopped eating meat, when I do this it makes me aware of all the crap I put in my mouth and I seem to eat a lot healthier, I'm not giving it up just cutting way back, from this point forward maybe once a month and it will be chicken.

 

Well done Iono,

 

if you keep up with your program you will look very good in a few months, but it without sufficient proteins with every meal you won't build any muscles.

 

Anyway, if you cut back meat completely and do sports you might miss/lose some important essential ingredients. I am not a specialist for this, but you should do a search at google for vegetarian and bodybuilding. It seems that vitamin B12 can only be found in meat.

[kamui]

Just a short update on my Atkins diet:

I lost 17,6 pounds within 10 weeks. I reduced carbes to 15gr. daily (that's means carbs only from veggies, no bread, pasta, potato, cookies e.g.) and lived on health fat from meat, eggs, olive oil and other sources and protein.

 

It's the first time in my life that I lost more than 2 pounds and I am feeling much better now. But since two weeks I hit a pleteau and my weight is not going down anymore. Therefore I started doing sports this week, following the Body-for-Live training program.

Maybe I will increase carbs to 30-40grs (Atkins phase II) a day which still is not much, but my plan now is to lose my last 6 pounds and gain muscles at the same time. The Body-for-live program runs for three month with 3 times high interval cardio and 3 times a very intense weight training.

 

I will give another update in a few weeks

[iono]

Way to go! ::

[Guest]

an update on my diet.

i am down to 82 kilos, after a lovely chinese dinner yesterday with oysters, sharkfin soup and some other niceties.

so, in order to balance that out i had to wolf down two monster plates of spagetthi (al dente, and the best ones money can buy in thailand!) tonight, one with tomato sauce made by the missus, another one with a nice pesto sauce. to close down the stomach i have had a nice white mousse aux chocolate.

i really think i need a nice pizza sometime next week. oh yeah, some lovely arab food would be good as well.

[Guest]

Hi,

 

I started the Atkins plan on Jan 20th, have lost 26lbs, or almost 12kgs, and have moved onto phase 2 quite easily, have bumped up my carb allowance to 30-35 grams per day, and still losing about a lb or 2 a week.

 

The eating plan was a little boring in phase 1, now much more varied, and I am even able to have a beer or 2, I have found several new lo carb beers that are pretty good, and there are many other lo carb products that are almost impossible to tell from the real thing without all the mystery ingredients.

 

I also take a good multi vitamin and a couple of essential oil pills daily, and try to get some exercise on a regular basis.

 

No reason this cannot be a lifelong eating plan if it is done right, just do not treat it as a diet, if you do, and then go back to your old habits, well..it will all just have been a waste of time.