think_too_mut Posted July 27, 2004 Report Share Posted July 27, 2004 >Although university status can be subjective and varies by major, Chula and Thammasat are pretty much regarded as the top two unis in Thailand. Chula was formed by the Palace to produce admin staff for the founders. Has never lost that menthality and (nowdays can be said) retardiness compared to the modern world's schools. It is a leader among world's worst universities. There are worse than them but they are never mentioned as a national pride. JJsushi said something I liked: graduates with Chula education only would never be able to compete in this world. Something like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frogpatrol Posted July 27, 2004 Report Share Posted July 27, 2004 think_too_mut said:Chula was formed by the Palace to produce admin staff for the founders. Has never lost that menthality and (nowdays can be said) retardiness compared to the modern world's schools. It is a leader among world's worst universities. There are worse than them but they are never mentioned as a national pride. First, my comment was about status, not quality by international standards. If you poll 100 Thais, I assure you that 99 will cite Chula or Thammasat as the top 2 by status. As for quality, I think you are being very harsh. Chula produces many, many fine graduates in a variety of fields. Many of the country's top physicians, business leaders, and so on are Chula graduates. Sure there are problems, some of which are endemic in the Thai educational system, but one of the world's worst unis? No chance. Not even close. froggo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest lazyphil Posted July 27, 2004 Report Share Posted July 27, 2004 <<First, my comment was about status, not quality by international standards. If you poll 100 Thais, I assure you that 99 will cite Chula or Thammasat as the top 2 by status>> I mentioned in another thread that I saw/heard a gaggle of Thais outside Kings College, Cambridge last week collecting their degrees, the other 1%? (I think alot of face gained that day!) Nobel Prize Winners (hey, just cuz I never went there dont mean I cant brag, the mrs went to a language school for 2 terms here though) 1904 Lord Rayleigh, Trinity College Nobel Prize in Physics, for discovering Argon 1906 J. J. Thomson, Trinity College Nobel Prize in Physics, for investigating the electrical conductivity of gases 1908 Ernest Rutherford, Trinity College Nobel Prize in Chemistry, for atomic structure and radioactivity 1915 William Bragg, Trinity College Nobel Prize in Physics for analysing crystal structure using X-rays 1915 Lawrence Bragg, Trinity College Nobel Prize in Physics, for analysing crystal structure using X-rays 1917 Charles Barkla, Trinity College Nobel Prize in Physics, for discovering the characteristics of X-radiation 1922 Niels Bohr, Trinity College Nobel Prize in Physics, for investigating atomic structure and radiation 1922 Francis Aston, Trinity College Nobel Prize in Chemistry, for work on mass spectroscopy 1922 Archibald Hill, Trinity College Nobel Prize in Medicine, for work on heat production in the muscles 1925 Austen Chamberlain, Trinity College Nobel Prize in Peace, for work on the Locarno Pact, 1925 1927 Charles Wilson, Sidney Sussex College Nobel Prize in Physics, for inventing the cloud chamber 1927 Arthur Holly Compton Nobel Prize in Physics, for discovering wavelength change in diffused X-rays 1928 Owen Richardson, Trinity College Nobel Prize in Physics, for creating Richardson's Law 1929 Frederick Hopkins, Trinity / Emmanuel Colleges Nobel Prize in Medicine, for discovering growth stimulating vitamins 1932 Lord Adrian, Trinity College Nobel Prize in Medicine, for work on the function of neurons 1932 Charles Sherrington, Caius College Nobel Prize in Medicine, for work on the function of neurons 1933 Paul Dirac, St John's College Nobel Prize in Physics, for quantum mechanics 1935 James Chadwick, Caius College Nobel Prize in Physics, for discovering the neutron 1936 Henry Dale, Trinity College Nobel Prize in Medicine, for the chemical transmission of nerve impulses 1937 George Thomson, Trinity College, Nobel Prize in Physics, for interference in crystals irradiated by electrons 1937 Albert Szent-Gyorgyi, Fitzwilliam College Nobel Prize in Medicine, for combustion in biology 1945 Ernst Chain, Fitzwilliam College Nobel Prize in Medicine, for the discovery of penicillin 1945 Howard Florey, Caius College Nobel Prize in Medicine, for the discovery of penicillin 1947 Edward Appleton, St John's College Nobel Prize in Physics, for discovering the Appleton Layer 1948 Patrick Blackett, Magdalene / Kings Colleges Nobel Prize in Physics, for nuclear physics and cosmic radiation 1950 Bertrand Russell, Trinity College Nobel Prize in Literature, for A History of Western Philosophy, 1946 1950 Cecil Powell, Sidney Sussex College Nobel Prize in Physics, for photography of nuclear processes 1951 John Cockcroft, St John's / Churchill Colleges Nobel Prize in Physics, for using accelerated particles to study atomic nuclei 1951 Ernest Walton, Trinity College Nobel Prize in Physics, for using accelerated particles to study atomic nuclei 1952 Richard Synge, Trinity College Nobel Prize in Chemistry, for developing partition chromatography 1952 Archer Martin, Peterhouse Nobel Prize in Chemistry, for developing partition chromatography 1953 Hans Krebs Nobel Prize in Medicine, for discovering the citric acid cycle 1954 Max Born Nobel Prize in Physics, for fundamental research into quantum mechanics 1957 Alexander Todd, Christ's College Nobel Prize in Chemistry, for work on nucleotides 1958 Frederick Sanger, St John's College Nobel Prize in Chemistry, for the structure of the insulin molecule 1959 Philip Noel-Baker, King's College Nobel Prize in Peace, for work towards global disarmament 1962 John Kendrew, Trinity College Nobel Prize in Chemistry, for determining the structure of haemoproteins 1962 Max Perutz, Peterhouse Nobel Prize in Chemistry, for determing the structure of haemoproteins 1962 Francis Crick, Caius / Churchill Colleges Nobel Prize in Medicine, for determining the structure of DNA 1962 James Watson, Clare College Nobel Prize in Medicine, for determining the structure of DNA 1962 Maurice Wilkins, St John's College Nobel Prize in Medicine, for determining the structure of DNA 1963 Alan Hodgkin, Trinity College Nobel Prize in Medicine, for the transmission of impulses along a nerve fibre 1963 Andrew Huxley, Trinity College Nobel Prize in Medicine, for the transmission of impulses along a nerve fibre 1964 Dorothy Hodgkin, Newnham / Girton Colleges Nobel Prize in Chemistry, for the structure of compounds used to fight anaemia 1967 Ronald Norrish, Emmanuel College Nobel Prize in Chemistry, for the study of fast Chemical reactions 1967 George Porter, Emmanuel College Nobel Prize in Chemistry, for the study of fast chemical reactions 1972 Rodney Porter, Pembroke College Nobel Prize in Medicine, for the chemical structure of antibodies 1972 John Hicks, Caius College Nobel Prize in Economics, for the equilibrium theory 1973 Brian Josephson, Trinity College Nobel Prize in Physics, for the tunneling in superconductors and semiconductors 1974 Patrick White, King's College Nobel Prize in Literature, for an epic and psychological narrative art 1974 Martin Ryle, Trinity College Nobel Prize in Physics, for the invention of aperture synthesis 1974 Antony Hewish, Caius / Churchill Colleges Nobel Prize in Physics, for the discovery of pulsars 1977 Nevill Mott, Caius / St John's Colleges Nobel Prize in Physics, for the behaviour of electrons in magnetic solids 1977 Philip Anderson, Churchill College Nobel Prize in Physics, for the behaviour of electrons in magnetic solids 1977 James Meade, Trinity College Nobel Prize in Economics, for contributions to the theory of international trade 1978 Pyotr Kapitsa, Trinity College Nobel Prize in Physics, for inventing the helium liquefier 1978 Peter Mitchell, Jesus College Nobel Prize in Chemistry, for the energy transfer processes in biological systems 1979 Abdus Salam, St John's College Nobel Prize in Physics, for electromagnetic and weak particle interactions 1979 Steven Weinberg Nobel Prize in Physics, for electromagnetic and weak particle interactions 1979 Allan Cormack, St John's College Nobel Prize in Medicine, for developing CAT scans 1980 Walter Gilbert, Trinity College Nobel Prize in Chemistry, for the theory of nucleotide links in nucleic acids 1980 Frederick Sanger, St John's College Nobel Prize in Chemistry, for the theory of nucleotide links in nucleic acids 1982 Aaron Klug, Trinity College Nobel Prize in Chemistry, for the structure of biologically active substances 1983 Subrahmanyan Chandrasekhar, Trinity College Nobel Prize in Physics, for the evolution and devolution of stars 1983 William Fowler, Pembroke College Nobel Prize in Physics, for the evolution and devolution of stars 1983 Gerard Debreu, Churchill College Nobel Prize in Economics, for reforming the theory of general equilibrium 1984 Richard Stone, Caius College Nobel Prize in Economics, for developing a national income accounting system 1984 Cesar Milstein, Fitzwilliam College Nobel Prize in Medicine, for developing a technique for the production of monoclonal antibodies 1984 Georges Kohler Nobel Prize in Medicine, for developing a technique for the production of monoclonal antibodies 1989 Norman Ramsey, Clare College Nobel Prize in Physics, for developing the separated field method 1996 James Mirrlees, Trinity College Nobel Prize in Economics, for studying behaviour in the absence of complete information 1997 John Walker, Sidney Sussex College Nobel Prize in Chemistry, for studying how a spinning enzyme creates the molecule that powers cells in muscles 1998 Amartya Sen, Trinity College Nobel Prize in Economics, for his contributions to welfare economics 1998 John Pople, Trinity College Nobel Prize in Chemistry, for the development of computational methods in quantum chemistry 2000 Alan McDiarmid, Sidney Sussex College Nobel Prize in Chemistry, for the discovery and development of conductive polymers 2000 Paul Greengard Nobel Prize in Medicine, for discoveries concerning signal transduction in the nervous system 2001 Tim Hunt, Clare College Nobel Prize in Medicine, for discoveries of key regulators of the cell cycle 2001 Joseph Stiglitz, Caius College Nobel Prize in Economics, for analyses of markets with asymmetric information 2002 John Sulston, Pembroke College Nobel Prize in Medicine, for discoveries concerning genetic regulation of organ development and programmed cell death 2002 Sydney Brenner, King's College Nobel Prize in Medicine, for discoveries concerning genetic regulation of organ development and programmed cell death Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MooNoi Posted July 27, 2004 Report Share Posted July 27, 2004 Hi ib13. I'm in the same boat as Zaad. I met my GF here in Melbourne. She went to Srinakharinwirot in Bangkok for her Batchelor's degree, and is now doing her Masters here in Melbourne. Both in Tourism and Communications. So I voted BKK uni too. From memory, I don't think I saw Kasetstart on the list, and this is a pretty big uni in BKK too isn't it? Cheers, FlyP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 27, 2004 Report Share Posted July 27, 2004 Hi, >>>>>From memory, I don't think I saw Kasetstart on the list, and this is a pretty big uni in BKK too isn't it?<<<<< There are a number of important uni's in Thailand, that are not listed in the poll. Unfortunately, most clicked on BKK Uni, if their respective Uni was not listed, and so that must be concidered in the final results. IMO. PS...from what I remember, G/F said that ABAC only allows conversation there in English, so is concidered quite difficult by many Thai standards. Is this true? HT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasmine Posted July 27, 2004 Report Share Posted July 27, 2004 [color:"red"] It is a leader among world's worst universities. There are worse than them but they are never mentioned as a national pride. [/color] TTM, this is news to me, who says? By the way, the Chula was formed by King Rama the 5th to let EVERYONE have opportunities for higher education, needless to say, they have become admin staff. [color:"red"] JJsushi said something I liked: graduates with Chula education only would never be able to compete in this world. Something like that. [/color] Well, I wonder how they are comapred here, what criteria? I don't think comparing the Chula/Thammasart with European/USA universities are fair. It is like, IMO, comparing apples with coconuts (not apples, mind you). I would love to hear the criteria used to compare them, thanks. Jasmine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.. Posted July 27, 2004 Report Share Posted July 27, 2004 think_too_mut said:Chula was formed by the Palace to produce admin staff for the founders.Has never lost that menthality and (nowdays can be said) retardiness compared to the modern world's schools. It is a leader among world's worst universities. I would not say that is true across the board from my experience. I work with the engineering department and with the biomedical research departments and find them to be as good as any in the region. I also work with Universiti Sains Malaysia; Ngee Ann Poly, Temasak, Nat'l Uni of Singapore; Nat'l Taiwan University; and HK Poly, HK City Uni in HK), so I think I can be a fair judge. It's no Cal Poly or MIT, but then again, who is? What Chula has is a lot of students who have no business being there but for their money. But I can name a dozen expensive schools like that in the States (i.e., can't get in anywhere else, you can always go there cuz they take anyone with lots of money). Besides, my wife is a Chula grad, is quite capable of holding her own in any business scenario and has worked for MNCs in Singapore, Japan and the States! Cheers, SD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frogpatrol Posted July 27, 2004 Report Share Posted July 27, 2004 Agree, Jasmine and Suadam, but I suppose you know that from my previous post. Back to the thread, my top three for lovelies would be: 1. UTCC (Thai Chamber of Commerce U) 2. Bangkok U 3. ABAC Can't believe we didn't have a spot to choose UTCC! UTCC grads are constantly in the media, entertainment/modelling world, beauty pageants, etc. No surprise that the unis above are all private. Chula may have the brains, but the private unis have the lookers. As for ABAC, if you have the money, it really isn't terribly hard to get into. Or so I have been told by several people. I have met many ABAC grads (and current students) and their level of English varies widely, even after spending 4 years in an English language based curriculum. f Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lembeh Posted July 27, 2004 Report Share Posted July 27, 2004 Hmm. lets add some information to the thread. From an Asiaweek assesement, year 2000. Overall: http://www.asiaweek.com/asiaweek/features/universities2000/schools/multi.overall.html and science and technology: http://www.asiaweek.com/asiaweek/features/universities2000/scitech/sci.overall.html pretty damn interesting stuff about the Thai universities... -j- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.. Posted July 27, 2004 Report Share Posted July 27, 2004 Interesting -j-, but did you see this bit: http://www.asiaweek.com/asiaweek/features/universities2000/artic_missing.html What do you think of the metrics used to rank the schools? Appropriate? I am not an acadamian, so I do not know. Regards, SD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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