check_bin_krap Posted September 25, 2004 Report Share Posted September 25, 2004 "Many africans", humm gotta be referring to some South Africans who are avoiding the problem. Have you been in Africa TC? HIV and thereafter AIDS has had a serious influence on countries there. Is it propaganda? Have you seen some of the affected ones in the streets there? Its left huge numbers of childrens as orphants. Its affected the economies. Overloaded the hospitals. BTW, it also killed a couple of AID workers who I knew personally. What did you think they died of? Healthy males in their best ages, who first got HIV and then AIDS. One girl I met who had HIV or AIDS - I am not sure, said something which sticks in my mind. She had made sure to pay for her burial already. Thats the way she could live with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crash999 Posted October 3, 2004 Report Share Posted October 3, 2004 thamachat said:There is no evidence that Hiv destroys the immune system. That?s the problem. It?s never been anything more than a theory, but the media report as if it were a fact. They do this all the time and consistently, and not just on Aids. Theories that support powerful interest groups are promoted to facts. Everything in life is a theory, Thamachat, all we can do is observe cause and effect. Another theory is that the union of sperm and an egg is the cause of pregancy- humans are far from understanding the mechanism of reproduction but it doesn't mean it's not real or we can't plan against what we observe. Arguing about the minutae is not being able to see the forest for the trees. There's a damn high correlation between HIV and dying... high enough for any rational person not to want to get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crash999 Posted October 3, 2004 Report Share Posted October 3, 2004 Nervous_Dog said:Where is the guys who claim it doesn't? Dam this is going to be boring! Maybe they've all died of 'unrelated illnesses'... ha! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lembeh Posted October 3, 2004 Report Share Posted October 3, 2004 >There is no evidence that Hiv destroys the immune system Yes. There is. >It?s never been anything more than a theory, but the media report as if it were a fact. They do this all the time and consistently, and not just on Aids. Its been shown how. And this is the main methodology of the "virusmythers". Completely ignore the evidence again and again and again. However many times it is shown to you, you deny the evidence, and then start again from the same position. -j- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nervous_Dog Posted October 3, 2004 Author Report Share Posted October 3, 2004 Hey Josh - the world's flat too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomc12 Posted October 4, 2004 Report Share Posted October 4, 2004 Interesting to see what your link shows. Out of 1,000,296,092 dollars contributed for the year, countries contributed 704,000,000. Of the rest, big contributors were Glaxo-43 million, United Nations FIP-39 million, Rotary International-35 million, Bill Gates Foundation-32 million, UNAIDS-24 million, Commission of European Communities-18 million, World Bank-13 million, Novartis-12 million, Kobe Group-9 million, Aventis-7 million, and OPEC-5 million. So the majority of the funding came from various countries. The big contributors accounted for an additional 237 million, of which 62 million came from drug companies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nervous_Dog Posted October 4, 2004 Author Report Share Posted October 4, 2004 WOW - thats a lot from Rotary! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCgringo Posted October 4, 2004 Report Share Posted October 4, 2004 to the original poster..... Whatever you want to call it , millions are dying , and I am still covering up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lembeh Posted October 5, 2004 Report Share Posted October 5, 2004 >Hey Josh - the world's flat too! Now dog, thats just silly. Everyone knows the world cannot be flat - because its hollow, and thats where all the dinosaurs are now.....(at least thats what the space aliens told me....) -j- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Palmer Posted October 22, 2004 Report Share Posted October 22, 2004 [color:"blue"]please understand that i'm promoting safe sex(if there is such a thing), for the sex workers of the los and their customers with this... check the link below and feel free to comment: [/color] http://www.avert.org/hivstages.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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