What changed in P4P the last 15 years?

[limbo]

The good looking 20 yr old is now 35 and I could still see my d1ck 15 yrs ago.

[Zaad]

All masseurs at the massage joints have become masseuses.

[colorwolf]

 

When, in 1972, Henry Kissinger asked Chinese leader Chou En Lai his opinion of the French Revolution, Chou is reported to have said, "It is too soon to tell."

[Topcatta]

limbo said:

The good looking 20 yr old is now 35 and I could still see my d1ck 15 yrs ago.

 

A lot of "white" guys have problems to see their dick...Maybe its like a pencil sharpener, every time you screw some more chiki pooh it gets shorter?

[limbo]

or rather that friggin belly gets in the way, Topcatta.

 

IMO most posters here see their bellybutton rather than their d1ck when they look down nowadays.

 

Yeah, Nok who was 20 yrs old 15 yrs ago now supports a map of Thailand, variations on the amount of provinces on the maps vary wildly.

[Topcatta]

limbo said:

or rather that friggin belly gets in the way, Topcatta.

 

 

With that little belly of yours, I say you cry Wolf.

[limbo]

Yep, I'm still a small guy compared to some others here.

[Guest]

Many things:

 

1. The ?scene? is much much larger than it was 15 years ago. It is much larger now than it was five years ago. Indeed, even during the darkest days of the New Social Order, the scene was growing (so much for the ?quality tourist? theory). Five or six years ago there wasn?t much on the ddd numbered Soi side of Sukhumvit ? no Gullivers and many of the small bars on that side of Sukhumvit did not exist.

 

2. There are far more tourists visiting Thailand now than 15 years ago ? and that includes many more Farangs in the p4p scene. The relative cost of travel is much lower than it was 15 years ago. Even without making adjustments for inflation, airplane tickets now seem slightly cheaper than 15 years ago. Thailand, for better or worse, is seeing tourists now that it wouldn?t have seen 15 years ago.

 

3. The scene is more varied than it was. I don?t recall, for example, anything like a Q Bar or Club 87 15 years ago. It is these places ? rather than the go go bars ? that, ironically enough, suffered the most through the new social order. If we don?t see any lunatic efforts to re-initiate these sorts of failed policies, we will see any even more varied and interesting (with more upscale places) places in the future.

 

4. The BGs are more sophisticated now. They have mobile telephones, and they know how to use them to keep sponsors longer and make their sponsorships more lucrative. I think the combination of new technology and new visitors to the scene reinforce each other in terms of increasing the scope and size of sponsorship. The ready availability of porn has increased the quality of fake BG orgasms tremendously; that probably hasn't hurt sponsorship either.

 

5. Bangkok, despite itself, is turning into more of an international city. It is not and probably will never be a San Francisco, but there are certainly more Farangs here than before. As Bangkok develops, the gap between Bangkok and up-country Thailand (which is also developing, albeit at a much slower pace) widens. I am not sure how that will work out.

 

You supposedly notice change more when you only visit a place every so often. There are places in the US I go back and visit every few years, and what I notice is that the city where I live ? Bangkok ? seems to have changed much more in those last few years than most places I visit in the US, and this is to be expected given the relative levels of development between Thailand and the US. I not only expect to see more changes, but also an acceleration in the pace of change.

[Topcatta]

Hugh_Hoy said:

The numbers and types of customers have changed.

HH

 

HH,

What type of customers are coming now? In contrast to the customers 15 years ago? I wonder about that since the farang backpackers have changed so incredible much I dont associate with them at all whereas I used to... Young and stupid seems to be the norm. Making no real contact with Thais and not really interested in Thai culture, I find them behaving quite rude and full of themselves. Plus the fact that ppl travel quick nowadays. One or two nights on an island, 1 on 2 on the next...So time to get to know anyone is not there. This I noticed is getting to the Thais.

[Coss]

"Young and stupid seems to be the norm. Making no real contact with Thais and not really interested in Thai culture,"

 

well in 15 years, this is something that hasn't changed IMHO.

 

Apart from getting the obligatory strings around the wrist and going to anything that can be described as a moon party. Backpackers are feckless.

 

Whereas I and my aquaintances are full of feck. and I am also gruntled.

 

Cheers

 

Coss