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I still haven't got over my Michel Herbelin being thrown out. Now days I am quite happy wearing my original Swiss Army Officers which I picked up at a porn shop for a but 5% of it's true value.

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The great thing about a real watch is that they have value in a time of emergency. I got an omega as a gift some time ago. I have had the battery changed a couple times and each time the jeweler [china town NYC] has offered to buy it. I think it was $1200 brand new and this guy has offered me more than $800 on more than one occaision. Stainless steel, no real fangles, but I have never seen one that was like it, and when I show it to omega dealers they ask me where and when I got it. To me it's special because of who gave it to me and that it keeps great time.

 

Fakes are easy to spot, too easy when they have 'fake' gold looking crappy metal. If you get a fake make it stainless steel, or a leather band.

 

Or wait to see a down and out falang wearing a nice watch and make an offer.

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"and that it keeps great time"

 

hehehe that *is* handy... :)

 

On a side note.. I deliberately set my watch 4 hours and ten minutes out. I started doing so at school when I got bored of people pulling my arm to check the time (as kids do). I soon got used to reading the time 'wrong', without doing the maths.. which has now backfired as I can't actually tell the time unless a watch / clock is set 4 hours and 10 minutes out. 100% fact.

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There are crappy fakes and unbelievably good fakes. Copy watches is big business and has evolved alot over the years. Last year my buddy brought back some fakies and went to get batteries replaced. The watch repair guy couldnt tell the difference and wanted to send them to rolex head office to get them done.. Every watch guy in Thailand has several different qualities of watches and knows the difference between them. Try to educate yourself on the differences of them and you will end up with a higher quality purchase. They usually classify them as A,B,C quality.. shop around and compare and ask questions.

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and went to get batteries replaced. The watch repair guy couldnt tell the difference

 

Hmm, real Rolex watches (oyster, submariner, yatchmaster, presidents etc) are all mechanical, automatic, self winding chronometers, they don't have batteries.

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"Porshe Design"

 

Looks like someone who wants to copy Porsche.

 

Rolex watches are made by an other company, everyone can get a gold Rolex for free but you must to something outstanding and sure to be in the news.

 

My Jean Jacques is not on the list, one fake watch seller in Pattaya offered all his fakes in his bag (around 200) for my real one, I didn't accept - lucky for him as not that expensive.

:neener:

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If you are buying a Rolex, especially a second hand one, you need to be sure its genuine. The lower quality replicas are fairly obviously fake but the high quality ones are hard to distinguish from the real thing. Below is a guide to the types of fake Rolexes you might be likely to encounter and how to detect them.

 

There are 2 kinds of fakes: battery operated quartz and self winding automatic.

 

Quartz

 

It is easy to tell that the battery operated quartz watches are fake. They sell at around $5 and do not pretend to be anything else. The second hands have a jerky movement and therefore don't look anything like the originals which are automatic with sweeping second hand. (The exception is the quartz Cellini but this is not a popular model)

 

Automatic

 

Automatics come in 3 grades: 'Chinese', 'Japanese' and 'Swiss' which is a fancy way of saying low, medium and high quality. They are all made in mainland China, although some of the parts may be made by Japanese or Swiss manufactures.

 

'Chinese'

 

Along with the quartzes these are the ones most commonly found in the street markets such as Patpong. Tourists are, perhaps understandably, reluctant to spend more than a few dollars on a fake. They have sweeping second hands, and to the untrained eye have the same look and feel as the better quality ones. However, they do not keep good time, and the bracelets are made of chrome plated aluminium which corrodes after a few months; the gold tends to peal off quite rapidly especially in a hot climate.

 

How to recognize a Chinese fake

 

*The link on the bracelet closest to the case is smaller than the others

 

*Adjust the time. When you pull out the crown the second hand will continue running.

 

*Some of the features will not the same as on the originals. With the Daytonas the buttons are non-functional.

 

'Japanese'

 

These are of higher quality than the 'Chinese' fakes and more authentic. The bracelets are made of stainless steel, the dials of scratch proof sapphire and they keep good time. They have some degree of water resistance. They are good watches although like the Chinese are fairly easy to distinguish from the real thing.

 

How to recognize a Japanese fake

 

*Set the time to midnight. Note that when the date changes the number starts to move at around 10 pm and finally flips at midnight. On the original Rolex the date will change at exactly midnight.

 

*Shake the watch and put it to your ear. The movement continues whirring for around 3 seconds. Turn the watch round and shake it in an anti-clockwise direction. There is no movement. With an original Rolex the movement will sound the same in either direction.

 

*The functionality of the Daytonas is different to that of the originals. The totalisator dials on the 'Japanese' models act as calendar functions rather than measuring elapsed time.

 

*In many Japanese fakes, the cyclops - the glass bubble over the date that acts as a magnifying glass - gives only 1.5 magnification rather than the 2.5 on the originals.

 

'Swiss'

 

Generally only Submariners and Explorers are available in this grade. They are the highest grade of fake and even someone who has actually owned a real Rolex would be hard put to distinguish them from the originals. They are faithful to the originals, are made of the same materials and keep perfect time; the Submariners are waterproof to around 10 meters.

 

How to recognize a Swiss fake

 

*Practically the only way you can do so is to take the backs off; "ETA" will be engraved on the movement rather than "Rolex" as in the originals.

 

-OT

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