Checking your property may make you a DOMESTIC TERRORIST

[Bangkoktraveler]

Some people are insane and when they get into a political office, it is even worse. This article is about a proposed law. If passed, if you go outside with a weapon to see what the hell is going on, you could be arrested as a domestic terrorist.

 

 

 

[color:red]Law would make Minutemen

guilty of 'domestic terrorism'

'Patrolling to detect alleged illegal activity'

while carrying any weapon would be felony[/color]

 

 

An Arizona lawmaker has introduced a bill to revise the state's statutes on organized crime and fraud by defining "domestic terrorism" in such a way that members of the Minuteman Project or other border-patrol groups could be prosecuted and forced to serve a minimum six-month jail term.

 

Rep. Kyrsten Sinema, D-Phoenix, introduced HB 2286 in the Arizona House on Thursday.

 

Sinema, formerly of the Green Party, had earlier submitted a bill asking the legislature to make changes to a law used to prosecute customers of immigrant smugglers as conspirators under Arizona's human trafficking law.

 

"None of us every dreamed it would be used in a co-conspirator fashion," Sinema said.

 

As WND reported, it was federal inaction that motivated Arizona lawmakers to approve the new law creating the crime of smuggling in 2005. Maricopa County District Attorney Andrew Thomas announced he would interpret the law to mean illegals caught with a smuggler could be prosecuted as co-conspirators if they paid a coyote to transport them across the border.

 

"If the customer pays a dope peddler money, he's violated the law," said Sheriff Joe Arpaio, who compares the relationship between coyotes and illegals to drug dealers and their customers. "(Here), they're paying for transport."

 

That law was upheld last year by a county judge after defense attorneys questioned its constitutionality. Last month, the same judge who upheld the law also overturned the first jury conviction of an illegal immigrant charged as a conspirator under the law, Associated Press reported.

 

Now, Sinema is targeting border-security groups like the Minutemen with new legislation that would define anyone not formally affiliated with law enforcement, who patrolled in search of illegal activity while armed, as a domestic terrorist. If it becomes law, the bill would impose a mandatory minimum jail sentence, even if prosecutors recommend probation.

 

HB 2286 reads:

 

[color:blue]Sec. 2. Title 13, chapter 23, Arizona Revised Statutes, is amended by adding section 13-2320, to read:

 

13-2320. Domestic terrorism; classification

 

A. An individual or group of individuals commits domestic terrorism if the individual or group of individuals are not affiliated with a local, state or federal law enforcement entity and associate with another individual or group of individuals as an organization, group, corporation or company for the purpose of patrolling to detect alleged illegal activity or to individually patrol for the purpose of detecting alleged illegal activity and if the individual or group of individuals is armed with a firearm or other weapon.

 

B. Any city, town or county that suffers injury arising out of a violation of this section may maintain an action in superior court for the recovery of damages or for an injunction, or both. The court may award the successful party reasonable attorney fees.

 

C. If the court sentences the defendant to a term of probation, the court shall order that as an initial condition of probation the defendant be imprisoned in the county jail for a period of not less than six months. This jail term of incarceration shall not be deferred, deleted or otherwise suspended and shall commence on the date of sentencing. This subsection does not apply to persons who are sentenced to serve a period of incarceration in the state department of corrections.

 

D. A violation of this section is a class 5 felony. [/color]

 

Sinema and other Democrat legislators joined the ACLU and the American Friends Service Committee as legal observers during the Minutemen's project on the Arizona-Mexico border in April 2005.

 

"I've been monitoring the Minutemen for a year now," Sinema told vigilantewatch.org at the time, "and they're just scary."

 

"Race-based tactics always lead to violence," she insisted. "Remember, the Ku Klux Klan was the first-ever group to patrol the border between the U.S. and Mexico back in the '70s."

 

As WND reported, a leader of the violent, terror-connected Latin American gang Mara Salvatruchas, Ebner Anivel Rivera-Paz, had reportedly issued orders from federal prison to members of his international criminal organization to teach a lesson to the group of Americans taking border control into their own hands.

 

The Mara Salvatruchas, founded in Los Angeles, has become one of the most violent and widespread gangs throughout South America, the U.S. and even Canada. Many of its members and leaders have been deported from the U.S., but the group is said to be deeply involved in cross-border arms-running and drug-smuggling operations, according to U.S. law enforcement sources.

 

Under Sinema's bill, volunteers who still want to assist law enforcement by being eyes and ears along the border will have to do so unarmed.

 

Sinema was awarded the "Vladimir I Lenin" award from Arizona Federation of Taxpayers in 2005, a tongue-in-cheek honor given to the "most pro-big government legislator." In 2006, she angered many conservatives when, in a magazine interview, she referred to them as "Neanderthals" and said women and moms who stay at home and don't work are dependent on men and "leeching off their husbands."

 

 

Article found HERE.

 

 

 

 

[elef]

As I read the text you don't even have to go outside - if you hear a sound from an other room and take your gun and go looking you're a domestic terrorist IMO.

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While I am against illegal immigrants, I believe that the Minutemen are vigilantes and as such are dangerous and should be punished. There is no room for vigilantism in a civilized nation.

 

Regards,

SD

[Bangkoktraveler]

SD, if you lived in a country that didn't give a damn what people do to you, your property and your country, what would you do?

 

Last year, I had to pay a very huge water bill one month because one or more assholes did not know how to turn off a water faucet. They had the brains to turn it on, but that is as far as it gets.

 

Along the border, the fuckers are noted for helping themselves to your water, but they can not turn the water off. Next your well runs dry and then your pump burns out. Can ANYTHING BE DONE ABOUT IT? HELL NO.

 

 

This bill is not about the Minuteman but is one little piece of work that could make their activity illegal. And it is one step further to disarming America.

 

 

 

[Hugh_Hoy]

SD...just another form of "Neighborhood Watch" :grin:

 

HH

[Khun004]

I believe that the Minutemen are vigilantes and as such are dangerous and should be punished. There is no room for vigilantism in a civilized nation.

SuaDum has that inside out and upside down.

 

A civilized community will naturally take care of its own safety and security, instead of waiting for distant and bureaucratic state officials to do it for them.

 

Those who appreciate local action call that, "simple justice".

Those who prefer state bureaucracy use the term, "vigilantism".

 

With simple justice in a local community, each individual in the community has a choice:

Learn and follow the rules -- some unwritten but widely know -- or break the rules and suffer the consequences.

The third choice is to leave town.

 

Those who follow SuaDum's beliefs -- and they are the majority now -- are seing malignant growth of state police power, and resultant disintegration of security in local communities.

[Flashermac]

Whatever happened to the hue and cry???

 

 

[Bangkoktraveler]

You are right. Another group targeted is the neighborhood watch groups. If you go outside armed, you might get arrested as a terrorist.

 

We live one house from the end of the street. In order to enter the alley way behind the houses, you go around my neighbor's house and then enter the narrow alleyway. If I hear shit going on in the back alley, I would walk around my neighbor's house and enter the alley way - and I would do it with a gun.

 

Some my say "Call the police!".

 

If they suspect the other side has guns, they probably will not show up. We are on our own.

 

 

Recently, our community had some deadly home invasions. Some people got killed. One fucker was in his room when they entered his home. The first one he wounded. The second one he dropped dead. If the home owner did not have a weapon, it could have been the other way around.

[Hugh_Hoy]

The gal who proposed this "law" is a real Looney Tune (for those who used to go to movie matinees in the 40's/50's). Her cv and list of "honors" pretty-much says it all. Her proposal has about as much chance of becoming law as a snowball would have in hell. Fucking women politicians!!! We got one here in California that has proposed legislation that would imprison you if you spanked your child ! What a fucking cunt. (I actually saw her interviewed the other day, and she seems like a nice lady; maybe somebody who would run the "gold fish toss" booth at the local school carnival. After that, totally an airhead.) Women shouldn't be allowed to run for office and they shouldn't have been given the vote.

 

HH

[Bangkoktraveler]

I listened to the cunt from California proposing that law also. What is weird, there are a lot of people that believe what she says is a good idea! Figure it out!

 

 

There should be a bounty on every asshole you shoot!