Old Hippie Posted March 25, 2007 Report Share Posted March 25, 2007 ..and just sort of sat there looking very pissed. I can sympathise. I'm the same as that when I'm in BKK. jack Jack old Pal, No no Honey beans, I don't mean "Pissed" as in drunk, I mean "pissed" as in angry! ANd it was becoming increasingly more obvious as the night went on. I sort of felt sorry for her, as the 2 hookers were coming off as uppity cunts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanddawg1 Posted March 25, 2007 Report Share Posted March 25, 2007 This thread is a good read I'm actually learning something!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Hippie Posted March 25, 2007 Report Share Posted March 25, 2007 It goes back to what I said not to long ago (and someone accused me of knowing nothing about Bhuddism) But, Thais basically frown on Farangs and hookers....be it a real or perceived P4P relationship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanddawg1 Posted March 25, 2007 Report Share Posted March 25, 2007 So it looks to me like there is a Cass system in LOS like there is in India?? I would think a good Buhddist like a good Christians would not judge. This is why I don't do religion; any religion !!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YimSiam Posted March 25, 2007 Report Share Posted March 25, 2007 "The Thai guys you work with would probably not care - at least I don't know of any cases where the guys were an issue."... The situation is that I'm visiting BKK for a short time and I've got lots of people to meet. I'd like to treat this BG to some gourmet meals and fancy drinks but not sure if a) she's going to be comfortable, my thai friends are going to be comfortable being seen hanging out with a BG. Very interesting thread, some good posts! I've worked with a lot of Thais and spent eons with bargirls - but I never, ever bring them together! NO WAY! That is LOSE-LOSE, guaranteed. Thais will almost always assume that a TG with a farang is a hooker. In the best case, they may assume she's just a slut or trying to snag the farang for a husband. The only time they won't assume the worst is when you're in a mixed group that includes male and female Thais and farangs (and your BG's mototaxi-driver 'cousin' sulking in the corner doesn't count). It doesn't really matter whether Thais can spot a BG, since they'll assume the worst either way. The only time I would mix Thai workmates and Thai working girls is if the Thais were taking you out for a night of drinking, in which case the girls would not be the farang-market girls anyway. You say that you want to take the girl out for her own pleasure, to do something nice for her. Mixing a BG and 'normal' Thais (the only normal people I've met in Thailand are working girls, actually, but that's for another thread) is going to piss off the Thais, make you appear both sleazy AND - worse - stupid in front of the Thais, and your girl is going to be miserable, only doing it for you. (I'm not calling you stupid, I've read your posts and can see you're not, I'm just stating how I think Thais would see it). If you want to do something nice for her, the thing to do is GIVE face :thumbup: , not take it away :thumbdown: . Buy her something expensive that she can show to her friends, or sponsor a party for her with her friends, take them all out to a disco or show where they will feel comfortable and where she can show off how much you support her (measurable in baht). Buy food, drinks, be sanuk/jai dee farang, and shine the spotlight on her. As someone else posted, my female non-BG Thai friends absolutely dread being seen anywhere outside near lower Sukhumvit, especially with me - if we go anywhere down there, it's taxi to the door, no walking on the street at all. YimSiam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBelgianDog Posted March 25, 2007 Report Share Posted March 25, 2007 My case is a bit special. First I do not look like a farang (due to the fact I am born in Asia) Second, all her friends know her from either university or her previous jobs. (before working in a bar) and none of them knows that she worked in a bar. Third, she does not behave or look like your average bargirl when in public or when with her friends. So none of the problems of social interactions listed above happened to us...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChristianTroy Posted March 25, 2007 Report Share Posted March 25, 2007 I think Sua Dum was answering all the questions of the OP. I don't think there is much more to add except that I don't see that much of a difference to my home country. Dressing style is important but the way a person talks and what the person is saying is way more revealing than anything else! I obviously live in a city where you don't ask questions like the OP. It is just too obvious! This however is nothing that concerns me personally but I find it sad for the girls for being judged! What she does for money doesn't bother me as long she is a good person, it is obviously not only the farang society who judging people from the outside, it is very much a thai thing as well! I've studied 8 years to achieve a very high standard profession which opens you doors to wherever you wanna go, during these 8 years I have raised a company and employed many people and when I sold my shares of my company and left my studied profession untouched to produce porn sites the same doors that has been opened to me before were all of a sudden shut for good! I was still the same person, I just took a business opportunity and it would have been stupid to let this one go! It teached me the most valuable lesson in life. I know the question was asked by HeartThais and there are many points to make and it is an interesting read so far, but should one really care when some people judge others for what they are doing? I rather have a real friend who is simple minded but I can count on instead some sophisticated snob who let's me down if he sees his reputation in jeopardy! Thais judge a lot and very often out of jealousy and others because they think they are better than others, being different is not a good thing either. I just wonder how they practice their Buddhism and if they have ever heard of the "3Rs". Sorry if my 2 cents doesn't match the topic correctly and if it was controversial! PS "and mispelt English slogan T-shirts" :grin: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wonderlust Posted March 25, 2007 Report Share Posted March 25, 2007 I think the way you look is more important than the way she looks. In particular if you're much older than her then everyone (Thai and tourist alike but particularly Thais) will think she's a prostitute. Look at the article I posted in the news section "What Thais think of old farangs" for a bit of insight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Hippie Posted March 25, 2007 Report Share Posted March 25, 2007 So it looks to me like there is a Cass system in LOS like there is in India?? I would think a good Buhddist like a good Christians would not judge. This is why I don't do religion; any religion !!!! Exactly right! But we are talking the reality of a situation here, not the philisophical...if you get right down to it, most religious people don't follow that simple concept of "judge not least you be judged..." Sad but true. That is the point some people miss. But then I never studied with a venerable monk so what do I know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MooNoi Posted March 25, 2007 Report Share Posted March 25, 2007 Came into this post late, but wanted to add 2 baht to it. I don't get why anyone would want to bring a BG to a work event or non-sanuk-scene activity. The only reason I can think of is purely based on ego - i.e. having a pretty girl on your arm to show off to work colleagues / mates etc. Thais can spot a BG a mile off. And, unfortunately for farangs living in Thailand, IMO it's assumed if you are a farang with a TG on your arm, its a business relationship. Sad, but true. And they reason they probably do assume this is the simple fact that, overall, the great percentage of farang guys walking down the street with a TG *IS* a customer/working girl relationship. There's a lot more guys here on holidays than expats living here. I tend to find that the worst looks come from other farangs walking down the street - particularly farang women - when walking with a TG. Thais will probably assume she's a working girl but tend to be a lot more "mai pen rai" about it all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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