Flashermac Posted November 23, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 23, 2007 The bible thumpers for years have successfully fought to prevent Alabama from having a state lottery. Alabama folks just buy tickets on the Florida and Georgia lotteries. Millions of dollars a year are drained out of the state too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.. Posted November 23, 2007 Report Share Posted November 23, 2007 ...but in the end, as the saying goes, "Guns don't kill people, people kill people". ...and dogs do too, if they have a gun. See how stupid that makes your statement? If you think that a bat or a knife is as lethal as a pistol, I think I've got a bridge in New York I'd like to sell you. Yes, people can kill people even with just their bare hands. It just takes a lot of work. Let's take a scenario, like a verbal fight between two men in a parking lot: 1. It is legal to carry concealed weapons: It is possible that either man has a gun. So they get really angry at each other, one of them opens his car door and pulls his pistol out of his car and shoots the other man. Perhaps dead, perhaps just critically injured. Man 1, the heat of the moment over, has now realized he just killed/nearly killed another man over a simple disagreement. 2. It is illegal to carry concealed weapons: They get really angry at each other, one man pulls out a tire iron and hits the other in the back with it. The heat of the moment over, the first man realizes he has physically assaulted another man. But in this scenario, the second man is still alive, and only gets broken ribs. Yes, this is very specific. But a fair example of what people are talking about when they say guns kill people. We handgun control advocates don't think that guns leap off of the table and shoot people. We simply think that it makes it more likely that, at the end of an argument or a robbery, someone ends up dead. Cheers, SD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.. Posted November 23, 2007 Report Share Posted November 23, 2007 I thought that you were a "libertarian"? Me? No way. I correctly grew up out of that phase in 10th grade. I'm a progressive, with no allegiance to any party. Cheers, SD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weird Posted November 23, 2007 Report Share Posted November 23, 2007 ...but in the end' date=' as the saying goes, "Guns don't kill people, people kill people".[/quote']...and dogs do too, if they have a gun. See how stupid that makes your statement? If you think that a bat or a knife is as lethal as a pistol, I think I've got a bridge in New York I'd like to sell you. Yes, people can kill people even with just their bare hands. It just takes a lot of work. Let's take a scenario, like a verbal fight between two men in a parking lot: 1. It is legal to carry concealed weapons: It is possible that either man has a gun. So they get really angry at each other, one of them opens his car door and pulls his pistol out of his car and shoots the other man. Perhaps dead, perhaps just critically injured. Man 1, the heat of the moment over, has now realized he just killed/nearly killed another man over a simple disagreement. 2. It is illegal to carry concealed weapons: They get really angry at each other, one man pulls out a tire iron and hits the other in the back with it. The heat of the moment over, the first man realizes he has physically assaulted another man. But in this scenario, the second man is still alive, and only gets broken ribs. Yes, this is very specific. But a fair example of what people are talking about when they say guns kill people. We handgun control advocates don't think that guns leap off of the table and shoot people. We simply think that it makes it more likely that, at the end of an argument or a robbery, someone ends up dead. Cheers, SD You can get a response once you start reading what is posted, and stop with the blind cut-and-paste responses. Till then have a nice day. And there are so many narrow-minded flaws in those scenarios, but there's no point in rebutting them since they aren't even your own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashermac Posted November 24, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 24, 2007 << I'm a progressive, with no allegiance to any party. >> Try this one. Bet they'd welcome you. Let's party! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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