A View From the Aged

[expat]

Do you probably smell like the Manila Central urban waste deposit or did you develop openly visible diseases like Leprosy or worse ? Your concern has certainly nothing to do with your age ; advanced age plus some cash is rather a winning combination .

 

Do you probably wear a shirt that says something in Thai that you don't understand ? Maybe the translation is : " Don't spend money on women " . I am clueless .

 

That is rude.

[expat]

Thanks for starting this. I'm a bit younger, but we're all surely heading the same way.

 

Few points:

* How you look matters as much as how you present yourself, particularly at your age. Decent slacks, shirt, shoes. Any sort of shorts, sloppy T-shirt, flip flops, relaxed beach attire does not help. Thais are very conservative and judgmental -- they won't tell us anything to our face (even if we're borderline offensive, they just smile).

* Try to smell good. Always smile, fake as it may be. Be polite in public, no need to talk too much. It helps.

* Discard the illusion that the girls actually need to be attracted to you and that there ought to be an instant "spark". I think most guys go to bars for the feeling they're desired, not for the sex. You're probably missing this more than sex, as you said, you can always easily pick a girl from a fishbowl. If a girl doesn't make eye contact or smile, walk to her and talk to her anyway (or ask the mamasan). Feelings can develop later -- if you're nice and pay well, the girls will see the value in you as a good customer.

* No need to promise payment over the odds, it gets you neither respect nor better service. Always better to under-promise and over-deliver -- settle on 1000-1500 baht ST, and then give her a tip (if you intend to call her again).

 

I know a Thai girl (24, swimming teacher, never worked in nightlife) who seriously fell for a 70 year old guy who is not particularly rich. He always smiles and knows how to present himself.

 

I feel silly giving advice to someone who probably knows more than me, but hope some of this helps...

 

Nice post, though I feel, as you say, that the original poster probably knows most of these things, it's always good to be reminded of the facts of life (even if I could nitpick a couple of your points).

 

[buffalo_bill]

That is rude.

 

This was not meant to be rude , I am just trying to think of distant possibilities which might explain the poster's difficulties . I am in a similar age bracket but could not imagine any of the most disturbing findings of Khun hyaehus . On the contrary , I usually receive highest praise for being extrememly handsome immediately followed by invitations to buy ladydrinks and the offer to take madame out to the nearest hotel , God forbid . We are facing a phenomenon that requires urgent clarification . I suggest to contact the tourist police and the US embassy .

[Mekong]

I am impressed by your brother in law wearing flip flops though being an international banker which is a great example for tremendous success in life ,

 

You ignoramous, did you not read where I stated "SOCIALISE" or is the concept of divorcing work from social too much for your pea sized brain to comprehend?

[chuckwoww]

Your theory is not so far-fetched bubi. I once had a name-tag made up which said 'I am a big keenyo' (in Thai of course.) Got a lot of mileage out of it.

[hyaehus]

It appears some prefer to guess rather than assume.

 

If I was in business that was successful perhaps I might have figured out how to dress and smell. I dare say my attire of custom made silk shirts, good shoes, etc. and being well groomed still yields the same results.

 

I do find the occasional pretty one, but that someone contends there is no difference is either delusional or doesn't know quality is what I want to say. Instead, I'll remark that I'm happy you don't have the same experience and find no change as you age. If you're my age and never been called "grandpa" as you pass by crowded bar areas, it would be my assumption there is some loss of hearing.

 

Regardless, to each their own. I wasn't asking for advice.... comments and other's experiences are most interesting and have enjoyed the point of view.

 

BTW....At the high end hotels, especially the Shangri-La night club,,,,all the pretty ones are quite anxious to talk (and more) since I found out the bartenders, at that(and more than one hotel, last time it was also true at the Landmark pub in the basement) will signal them if you sign tabs with a room number that is a suite.

[buddha]

Ok...I'm thoroughly confused at this point. Seems your posts contradict one another, no?

 

Senility?

[buffalo_bill]

too much for your pea sized brain to comprehend?

 

Which is at least good news by receiving written confirmation that I have a brain at all .And it further proves that a minimum capacity is obviously worth more than a giant expat's brain that that it's owner fails to make usage of .

 

Original poster did not complain about no success in attracting socialising international bankers during riverrafting but he was talking about prostitutes in red light districts . I insist there is a difference though techniques might be similar .

 

On a sidenote , all bargirls united should be of much higer value to mankind than your international bankers ; at least here we should agree.

[buffalo_bill]

 

If you're my age and never been called "grandpa" as you pass by crowded bar areas, it would be my assumption there is some loss of hearing.

 

 

There isn't

 

[TroyinEwa/Perv]

Being called grandpa reminds me of this.....I am 43 now. Probably around 5 years or so ago, I was at the supermarket with my oldest son, around 6 at the time. The check-out lady asked him if he was happy to go around with grandpa for the day. Now, at 38, I thought I could pass for early 30's maybe even younger. My hair hadn't started turning gray yet and I wasn't as tubby as I am right now. Anyways, I thought relatively quickly and said something like, "He does like to but grandpa lives in another state", something along those lines. I don't know if she was embarassed more or me.