Flashermac Posted March 4, 2010 Report Share Posted March 4, 2010 Thaksin wasn't part of the ruling clique, his crime in their eyes was not stealing everything. Giving something back to the people was unforgivable. Thaksin's crime was stealing from those who had previously stolen it! He took powerful positions away from those whose families had long held them and gave them to his own relatives. The "elite" could care less if he gave something to the proles. He wasn't "giving it back" to them anyway, since they had never paid any taxes (only the middle class does). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julian2 Posted March 4, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2010 Thaksin wasn't part of the ruling clique' date=' his crime in their eyes was not stealing everything. Giving something back to the people was unforgivable. [/quote'] Thaksin's crime was stealing from those who had previously stolen it! He took powerful positions away from those whose families had long held them and gave them to his own relatives. The "elite" could care less if he gave something to the proles. He wasn't "giving it back" to them anyway, [color:red]s[/color][color:red]ince they had never paid any taxes (only the middle class does[/color]). And there, finally, we have it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaiHome Posted March 4, 2010 Report Share Posted March 4, 2010 And the shutdown of the airport was an act of international terrorism, which will not be forgotten. The Free Dictionary Noun 1. international terrorism - terrorism practiced in a foreign country by terrorists who are not native to that country act of terrorism, terrorism, terrorist act - the calculated use of violence (or the threat of violence) against civilians in order to attain goals that are political or religious or ideological in nature; this is done through intimidation or coercion or instilling fear Nice try, but I think this is a much more accurate description civi disobedience n. Refusal to obey civil laws in an effort to induce change in governmental policy or legislation, characterized by the use of passive resistance or other nonviolent means. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaiHome Posted March 4, 2010 Report Share Posted March 4, 2010 Typical foreign reporting trying to turn this into a poor versus “elite†conflict. As pointed out, the very leader they described is the typical upcountry “elite†that made a ton of money; tax money, paid by the middle class, and is no highly upset that he is no longer on the gravy train. The main supporters of the anti-Thaksin movement continue to be the urban middle class. That includes the upcountry middle class. Sure, money was being skimmed before Thaksin, but he took it to a whole new level. TH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mentors Posted March 4, 2010 Report Share Posted March 4, 2010 this year we will paint all the Easter Eggs in [color:red]RED[/color]! :happyeaster: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vintage_Kwai Posted March 4, 2010 Report Share Posted March 4, 2010 The main supporters of the anti-Thaksin movement continue to be the urban middle class. That includes the upcountry middle class. TH Nail. Head. Hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julian2 Posted March 4, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2010 Sorry, as the next fair election will show, if it's allowed, up country is solidly pro Thaksin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simie Posted March 4, 2010 Report Share Posted March 4, 2010 Typical foreign reporting trying to turn this into a poor versus “elite†conflict. As pointed out, the very leader they described is the typical upcountry “elite†that made a ton of money; tax money, paid by the middle class, and is no highly upset that he is no longer on the gravy train. The main supporters of the anti-Thaksin movement continue to be the urban middle class. That includes the upcountry middle class. Sure, money was being skimmed before Thaksin, but he took it to a whole new level. TH spot on. Simie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mentors Posted March 4, 2010 Report Share Posted March 4, 2010 Sorry, as the next fair election will show, if it's allowed, up country is solidly pro Thaksin. that's why "some people" doesn't want General Elections. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallenda Posted March 4, 2010 Report Share Posted March 4, 2010 Sure, money was being skimmed before Thaksin, but he took it to a whole new level.TH Whole new level in terms of what? Was his corruption worse than predecessors? Amounts taken greater? I'm not doubting you, just don't know the facts myself about how corrupt previous leaders (and their underlings) were. A great thing bout this current situation is that everyone knows exactly how much money is involved. Actually, its a great step forward the way Watergate was -- I mean it drops the curtain down and gives us a glimpse of whats really happening, it educates us. Now if the reds can only be as tenacious as the yellow side in exposing and going after corruption, the country just might get somewhere. I really believe Thailand has these problems because their upper classes have never been scared straight as they were in Europe (namely, after the French revolution, which had the effect of empowering the lower classes across the entire continent, then spread on to their colonies). There are no choices there between corrupt or good, clean govt. It's just one line of corrupt authority vs another. Which boss do you prefer to pay tribute to. The political system there is a sham democracy, more like feudalism pretending to be democracy. I guess there's worse situations around the world. Or even next door in Cambodia. Or next door in Myanmar. Or even downstairs in Malaysia (like the trick they're pulling now on that Ibrahim? That's pretty sick stuff.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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