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[Flashermac]

Peace Prize time ...

 

 

[Flashermac]

Millennial and Independent Voters Could Elect Sanders If They Would Actually Vote

 

 

 

In recent weeks, all focus has been placed squarely on various polls which show Senator Bernie Sanders lagging far behind the lead of the establishment candidate Hillary Clinton for the Democratic nomination. While these poll numbers are significant and worthy of attention, there is another polling number that has largely been ignored.

 

When it comes to independent voters, those who are undecided overwhelmingly are ‘feeling the Bern’. Among independent voters who make up 43 percent of the electorate, Bernie holds a staggering 36 percent lead over Mrs. Clinton, a significant number when you consider that the Democratic party only holds 30 percent of the electorate.

 

These numbers, combined with a few other key Sanders facts and figures (Sanders does just as good or better as Hillary when going head to head against GOP candidates and voters also feel that Sanders is vastly more trustworthy than his counterpart) indicate that not choosing Sanders as the Democratic nominee would be a dangerous gamble.

 

Those valuable independent voters who favor Sanders may be turned off the by business-as-usual reputation Hillary has garnered, and may opt to go with the Republican nominee. Can we really afford to take that chance?

 

While hosts of Hillary devotees groan and moan that Hillary is the only “realistic†candidate, polls like this show that her nomination is not so guaranteed, and that her presidency is even less so.

 

 

http://trofire.com/2...-actually-vote/

[unit731]

“Clinton’s program includes an increase in the minimum wage, expanded child-care subsidies, universal preschool, mandatory paid leave, and legislation to make it easier to sue employers for sex discrimination. These are policies that deliver concrete benefits to large groups of voters and signal that she is on the side of women, families, poor people, and employees.â€

 

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[Flashermac]

[unit731]

Standing silently.

Burlington, Vermont - of all places.

 

http://youtu.be/U0YBt_6HfbM

[Coss]

Not surprising. It seems that politics is a sport now, like Rollerball.

[Flashermac]

Mixed feelings on this. 1) She went there to create a scene - and she succeeded, making the news. 2) At a Trump rally, she's luck she didn't get stoned.

[Flashermac]

Sanders Thrives in Democratic Debate, Despite Sharp Attacks by Clinton

 

 

CHARLESTON, South Carolina - Bernie Sanders shined in Sunday night's Democratic debate here, at times overpowering Hillary Clinton in a format she typically controls. With polls showing Clinton on the ropes in Iowa and New Hampshire, Sanders' strong performance may have further imperiled Clinton's once-inevitable path to her party's presidential nomination.

 

Touting his surging poll numbers in the two key early states, Sanders was prepared and in command throughout the two-hour debate sponsored by NBC News and YouTube. In previous appearances, Clinton has easily dominated the stage. But turning in his strongest debate performance yet, Sanders drove the conversation - brushing aside her attacks as he doggedly returned to his core message of political revolution.

 

n the long arc of a primary campaign that began with warm relations between the two top candidates only to turn acrimonious over side issues, Sunday night was the first time voters saw the core divide between Clinton and Sanders.

 

They clashed over their approach to governing — revolution or evolution — in a way that's been hinted at since the day each got into the race but that was somewhat obscured until now.

 

The debate came at a critical moment in the campaign, just 14 days before the Iowa caucuses, where a surge in enthusiasm for Sanders, especially among younger voters, has suddenly made Iowa's contest a dead heat.

 

Clinton's campaign has struggled to respond to the passion-gap, and Clinton emphasized her pragmatism Sunday night.

 

While Sanders urged his audience to "think big," Clinton reminded them that "details matter." While Clinton used her opening remarks to say she was "prepared and ready," Sanders used his to make a passionate case for the "rigged economy." Clinton again aligned herself with Obama, saying she would continue his legacy and suggesting Sanders hadn't been fully supportive of the president. Sanders called for an end to establishment politics and the beginning of radical change. Clinton appealed to the head, Sanders to the heart.

 

The division was best exposed on health care, which has become the marquee issue in the primary. Sanders, who unveiled the long-awaited details of his single-payer health care plan just two hours before the debate, spoke in the language of rights and morality.

 

Clinton, meanwhile, spoke in the language of feasibility, suggesting Sanders' plan would never work. And she warned following his approach would plunge the country back into a "contentious debate on health care," having survived one of her own in the 1990s and witnessed the fight to enact the Affordable Care Act in 2009.

 

The candidates clashed again on Wall Street reform, with Sanders deploying a new attack on Clinton by invoking Clinton's paid speeches. "I don't take money from big banks," he said. "I don't get personal speaking fees from Goldman Sachs."

 

Clinton did land a few blows with well-deployed opposition research, ticking off a litany of Sanders' allegedly pro-gun votes at a time where Obama and many progressive voters are calling for stricter gun control measures. And she challenged Sanders on his Wall Street attacks by unexpectedly invoking Sanders' vote for the Commodity Futures Modernization Act, which exempted "over the counter" derivatives from regulation.

 

Sanders mostly let the attacks roll off his back, but he did call the Clinton campaign's claims about his gun record "very disingenuous" without providing details (fact checkers have sided with Clinton.)

 

Obama is a personal issue here in South Carolina, where black voters dominate the Democratic primary process and the president is extremely popular. South Carolina could be part of Clinton's Southern firewall if Sanders wins either or both Iowa or New Hampshire, since Sanders so far has struggled to win much support among African-Americans.

 

Asked about his comment that Bill Clinton's conduct with Monica Lewinsky was totally disgraceful and unacceptable," Sanders nimbly turned the question around on the moderators. He blamed the media for distracting him from the issue-based campaign he wanted to run - even as he showed no reservation about saying that Clinton's husband's actions were "deplorable" as she stood just a few feet away.

 

 

http://www.nbcnews.c...clinton-n498731

[unit731]

Yep. It's Obama's fault for her sons arrest.

 

“A lot of US veterans are not happy with Sarah Palin.

The reality TV star and former Alaska governor appeared on the campaign trail with Donald Trump yesterday (Jan. 20) and linked the recent domestic violence arrest of her son Track, an Iraq war veteran, to the post-traumatic stress disorders suffered by many returning veterans. Palin then suggested that the plight of veterans like Track was the fault of president Barack Obama.â€

 

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[Flashermac]

I've got a low level PTSD rating (I think too low). I'd never even thought of blaming Obama. If (God forbid) Trump the Dump gets into the White House, it might be worth trying.