Stickman Throws Down With Strikers

[elef]

 Most definitely! Access to the internet was strictly controlled back then. It required a very high security clearance. Even Al Gore wasn't allowed on. 

 

Good story Flashermac but not true. You can't speak about internet before 1982 and the american were kicked out from Vietnam 1975.

[Flashermac]

Hah! The internet was a very closely kept secret in the 1960s. Only a special few were allowed to know of its existence. (It was run through field phones and thus on the slow side.)

 

And the last American troops left South Vietnam on 29 March 1973, not in 1975.

 

 

 

[elef]

Hah! The internet was a very closely kept secret in the 1960s. Only a special few were allowed to know of its existence. (It was run through field phones and thus on the slow side.)

 

And the last American troops left South Vietnam on 29 March 1973, not in 1975.

 

That was probably ARPANET, internet was born when ARPANET changed to TCP/IP 1 january 1983, www 1990.

 

I remember the chaos when the american embassy was evacuated 30 (maybe a few days before) april 1975 including the marines (?) defending the embassy.

[Flashermac]

The chaos was caused by trying to evacuate South Vietnamese civilians who had worked for the US government. Couldn't leave them for the commies. The USAF could have annihiliated Hanoi's military, which was all out in the open. It was a perfect target. But Congress wouldn't do that. The US observed the cease fire terms, even though Hanoi didn't.

 

That should be a lesson to America's allies. Don't trust the US government's promises, not when US governments change every few years. (I certainly do not trust the US government.)

 

Hanoi launched a major assault on Ban Me Thuot, which should have cause a US response. When it didn't, Hanoi realised the US government was going to do nothing ... but watch. Virtually the entire North Vietnamese military moved into the South.

 

Hanoi had the 6th largest military in the world during the war, probably around number 4 at the time it invaded in March 1975. Impressive size for a country with only 16 million people. Compare that to Sweden's armed forces. Compare it to the UK's armed forces!

[elef]

The chaos was caused by trying to evacuate South Vietnamese civilians who had worked for the US government. Couldn't leave them for the commies. The USAF could have annihiliated Hanoi's military, which was all out in the open. It was a perfect target. But Congress wouldn't do that. The US observed the cease fire terms, even though Hanoi didn't.

 

That should be a lesson to America's allies. Don't trust the US government's promises, not when US governments change every few years. Hanoi launched a major assault on Ban Me Thuot, which should have cause a US response. When it didn't, Hanoi realised the US government was going to do nothing ... but watch. Virtually the entire North Vietnamese military moved into the South. Hanoi had the 6th largest military in the world during the war, probably around number 4 at the time it invaded in March 1975. Impressive size for a country with only 16 million people. Compare that to Sweden's armed forces.

 

In the 60s swedish army after mobilisation was 800 000 (population 7 millions), swedish air force was #4 in the world....

 

The most impressive thing with Vietnam was that they were winning a war with China.

[acockasian]

The chaos was caused by trying to evacuate South Vietnamese civilians who had worked for the US government. Couldn't leave them for the commies. The USAF could have annihiliated Hanoi's military, which was all out in the open. It was a perfect target. But Congress wouldn't do that. The US observed the cease fire terms, even though Hanoi didn't.

 

That should be a lesson to America's allies. Don't trust the US government's promises, not when US governments change every few years. (I certainly do not trust the US government.)

 

Hanoi launched a major assault on Ban Me Thuot, which should have cause a US response. When it didn't, Hanoi realised the US government was going to do nothing ... but watch. Virtually the entire North Vietnamese military moved into the South.

 

Hanoi had the 6th largest military in the world during the war, probably around number 4 at the time it invaded in March 1975. Impressive size for a country with only 16 million people. Compare that to Sweden's armed forces. Compare it to the UK's armed forces!

 

What would the North Vietnamese do to people that registered new names to sneak onto boards like this one?

 

Worse than walking through an American minefield?

[Flashermac]

Send them to re-education camps, where they would be kept for years before being released and forced to spend the rest of their lives as Elvis impersonators.

[Flashermac]

In the 60s swedish army after mobilisation was 800 000 (population 7 millions), swedish air force was #4 in the world....

 

The most impressive thing with Vietnam was that they were winning a war with China.

 

A Vietnamese colleague from Dalat is too young to remember the war, but he said as children they would talk about it in private. Hanoi moved many northerners to the south to keep an eye on the people. Thus there were children of both sides in that war. He said the kids wanted to know why their parents had fought and killed each other. The Northern parents said one thing, the Southerners another. He said the Chinese are Vietnam's hereditary enemy and there has been a war with China in almost every generaion. The Chinese in return regard the Vietnamese as not much better than hill tribes. No love lost between them, which the Washington politicians should have been smart enough to understand (but weren't). The reason Vietnam was winning against China was because the war front was small and thus not that difficult to defend. Sort of like the Trojans at Thermopylae.

[elef]

A Vietnamese colleague from Dalat is too young to remember the war, but he said as children they would talk about it in private. Hanoi moved many northerners to the south to keep an eye on the people. Thus there were children of both sides in that war. He said the kids wanted to know why their parents had fought and killed each other. The Northern parents said one thing, the Southerners another. He said the Chinese are Vietnam's hereditary enemy and there has been a war with China in almost every generaion. The Chinese in return regard the Vietnamese as not much better than hill tribes. No love lost between them, which the Washington politicians should have been smart enough to understand (but weren't). The reason Vietnam was winning against China was because the war front was small and thus not that difficult to defend. Sort of like the Trojans at Thermopylae.

 

Now I'm just joking, but actually Trojans lived in Asia Minor (Turkey today), Spartans my dear Watson.

 

Probably you're right about the small war front, but military strategy gurus also point out that General Giap (he's still living over 100) was probably the best military general of the 20th century, in same class as Napoleon and Julius Caesar.

[kamui]

I remember the chaos when the american embassy was evacuated 30 (maybe a few days before) april 1975 including the marines (?) defending the embassy.

 

The reason was, that the email with the order to evacuate took longer than an airmail letter at that time....

 

First they had to put the information into a computer. Than they had pack the computer and ship it to SE-Asia, and than they needed a day or two to set up the computer again and get the information out of it.