Flashermac Posted September 30, 2013 Report Share Posted September 30, 2013 Should this not be in USA Thread Probably. But ... The board bar The place to unwind, any topic is OK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaiRai Posted September 30, 2013 Report Share Posted September 30, 2013 I've worked in healthcare for a major provider the last decade. The literally absurd amount of uninsured in America is an indictment of our own shortcomings and needs to be addressed. That said - Obamacare is a mess and not congruent with existing infrastructure. It will be a mess for a long time. It's gonna be ugly. So be it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dean Posted September 30, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 30, 2013 What would you consider "a long time?" One year, three years or a decade? I'm not old enough to remember when Medicare/Medicaid went into effect in 1965-66 (I was 12-13 at the time), but I assume that there were glitches along the way. Is it just the size of healthcare in the U.S. today that makes it certain that there will be major problems for a long time. I'm certain that Obama and the Democrats don't want these problems spilling over into the 2016 elections Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Munchmaster Posted September 30, 2013 Report Share Posted September 30, 2013 Should this not be in USA Thread Yes it should be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Munchmaster Posted September 30, 2013 Report Share Posted September 30, 2013 Up to KS, but yes, maybe Actually it was up to Dean to post it there in the first place as it is clearly a USA issue and irrelevant to the rest of the non USA BM's (apart from Waerth - Removed) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dean Posted September 30, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 30, 2013 I did consider putting it in the USA thread but decided on the Board Bar, where any topic is allowed. After all, there have been other U.S. topics that have stood on their own, notably gun shootings and some natural disasters, like Hurricane Sandy. If I offended either you or Mekong, please accept my sincerest regret. Besides, its much more fun for BM's to watch you and Mekong snipe at each other like two old lades than talk about the most important U.S. government program in at least the last 50 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cavanami Posted October 1, 2013 Report Share Posted October 1, 2013 ...if some are offended...switch the channel...hello, you don't have to look at the thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashermac Posted October 1, 2013 Report Share Posted October 1, 2013 I do not question the need for government health care, but I am still wondering about Nancy Pelosi urging Democrats to vote on the bill first, then read it after it's passed. WTF! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaiRai Posted October 1, 2013 Report Share Posted October 1, 2013 It was actually impressive politicking on the part of Pelosi that she was able to finesse a coalition and was instrumental in pushing the thing through. That said - she blew her wad and won't be able to pull off anything of that magnitude again. Dean, the honest answer is - I have no idea how long it will take to work the thing out so it reaches the level of efficiency of Medicare (if it ever does). The thing is massive and confusing and healthcare is worried. For instance, where I worked on contract and will likely resume come December -- is one of the largest HealthCare providers in California. Physicians in the clinic are overburdened and given 15 minutes per patient by appointment (most of the time this means they take paperwork home to complete charting and they aren't happy about it). They're trying to prepare for the change but in truth are a bit clueless what will happen if there is a large influx of new patients because the infrastructure quite simply isn't there to support it. Then there is the matter of reimbursement and how EXACTLY it's gonna work and everyone is confused. And that's just the clinics - hospitals are a bigger enigma. Yeah, we need better healthcare and this is forcing it to happen which may be necessary - but - I don't know.... we'll see how it pans out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobbledonk Posted October 4, 2013 Report Share Posted October 4, 2013 Where are all the psycho gun nuts when the world needs a Tea Party politician taken out ? Proof, yet again, that nothing good ever came out of Texas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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