Coss Posted April 30, 2014 Report Share Posted April 30, 2014 From what I understand - and that's from the media - there was a cargo of containers, that was 2 or 3 times over the limits and this shifted in the turn causing the imbalance. But " The adults and children on board were told by the captain to remain in their cabins while the ferry was listing. " This is the cause of all the deaths... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCorinthian Posted April 30, 2014 Report Share Posted April 30, 2014 > It is impossible for a near-7,000-tonne ferry to list 60 degrees due to a mere steering error. No. Cav is right. Whoever wrote that know nothing about physics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khunsanuk Posted April 30, 2014 Report Share Posted April 30, 2014 Hi, The original article agrees with both of you. Note the 'it is impossible' Sanuk! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BelgianBoy Posted May 2, 2014 Report Share Posted May 2, 2014 When you abandon ship, you carry your life vest to your assigned lifeboat, putting the vest on just before you get into the lifeboat. The life vests can be bulky and with a mass of people heading to the lifeboats, it can cause unneeded congestion in the passage ways. Being told to put on the vest and then stay in your room? idiotic!! on both cruises that I did, you needed to put on the life vest immediately, not wait.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashermac Posted May 2, 2014 Report Share Posted May 2, 2014 Now it is coming out that this was not the regular captain. The regular captain says he had warned the owners that the ship had "balance problems" following a 2012 remodelling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cavanami Posted May 2, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 2, 2014 The mates on the ship and the captain take care of the ballasting of the ship. The ship usually has a custom piece of software for the loading of the ship. There are level sensors in all the tanks and all this data is fed into the software so as to balance out the ship. They call it sagging, where the belly of the ship is dragging in the water or hogging where it is just the opposite of sagging. As the ship sails and uses fuel, it changes the dynamics of the ship and the mates will move the fuel and water to other tanks to keep proper ballasting. Was the software updated after the ship was remodeled? we all the sensors working? did it even have the loading (ballasting)software? did the mates/captain even try to ballast the ship? If the ship was unsafe, the captain should have refused to sail! I have seen captains refuse to go out, not so uncommon. Lots of question to answer.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashermac Posted May 2, 2014 Report Share Posted May 2, 2014 Tragic video shows joking students on South Korea ferry Seoul - A cellphone video of students aboard a South Korean ferry minutes before it capsized and sank shows them laughing and joking about the Titanic as the Sewol began to list. The initially light-hearted exchanges are rendered all the more poignant by the fact that the video was taken by a 17-year-old student whose body was later recovered from the submerged ferry, along with his cellphone. "Hey, rescue me," jokes one male student, while another suggests the video would be "fun to put on Facebook" later. "It’s getting like the Titanic," says another as the 6,825-tonne Sewol begins to list further to one side. The in-built-timer shows the student, Park Su-Hyeon, began recording at 8:52am on April 16, several minutes before the Sewol crew sent out the first distress signal. Eleven minutes later, the students are still in a jovial mood, with one joking that it might be time to "leave my last words," and others debating whether the incident might get on the news. The footage was released to the South Korean media by Park’s father, with the footage pixillated to hide the identities of the students. Throughout, a loudspeaker can be heard telling passengers to remain where they are. The captain and 14 of his crew have been arrested and widely criticised for delaying the evacuation order until the ship was listing so sharply that escape was almost impossible. The captain argued that he was worried passengers jumping overboard before rescue vessels arrived would have been swept away and drowned. "What is the captain doing?" asks one of the students on the video. Of the 476 people on board the Sewol, 325 were students from the same high school on an organised trip to the holiday resort island of Jeju. As of Friday, the number of confirmed dead was 226, with 76 still missing. Park’s video resumes at around 9:06am, by which time the mood has started to shift towards fear and confusion. One student complains his legs are shaking and he feels nauseous, while another responds to the tannoy system telling passengers to don lifejackets. "I don’t understand. Putting on lifejackets? Does this mean the boat is sinking?" he says. The footage is likely to fuel public outrage over the disaster, and in particular the behaviour of the captain and crew. Video released by the South Korean coastguard on Monday showed the captain scrambling to safety as hundreds remained trapped inside. The precise cause of the accident is still under investigation, but experts have suggested a sharp turn may have caused its cargo to shift, and the ferry to list irretrievably to one side before capsizing. Two officials from the ferry operator, Chonghaejin Marine Co, were paraded before TV cameras on Friday after being questioned for two days over allegations that the Sewol was carrying three times its recommended cargo weight. Asked if he believed overloading might have caused the accident, one of the officials -- his face hooded and wearing a surgical mask -- answered: "Yes." Divers, meanwhile, continued to battle powerful currents and near-zero visibility in their efforts to retrieve the last bodies from the submerged vessel. Recovery workers put a ring of netting around the site days ago, but there are concerns that some of the bodies may have been dragged away from the boat by the currents and will never be found. One was retrieved Friday by a fishing vessel four kilometres away from the recovery site, and another was found two kilometres away on Wednesday. The relatives of those still missing are insisting that all the bodies be recovered before efforts begin to raise the sunken ferry http://www.nationmultimedia.com/national/Tragic-video-shows-joking-students-on-South-Korea--30232760.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pasathai1 Posted May 2, 2014 Report Share Posted May 2, 2014 Korea has all the trappings of a modern country, but the mindset is still 3rd world Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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