Chinese Men Buying Brides From Vietnam Is Getting Out Of Control

[cavanami]

Looks like China made a boo-boo...

 

Chinese Men Buying Brides From Vietnam Is Getting Out Of Control

 

http://www.businessinsider.com/chinese-men-buying-brides-from-vietnam-is-getting-out-of-control-2014-6

 

When Kiab turned 16, her brother promised to take her to a party in a tourist town in northern Vietnam. Instead, he sold her to a Chinese family as a bride.

The ethnic Hmong teenager spent nearly a month in China until she was able to escape her new husband, seek help from local police and return to Vietnam.

"My brother is no longer a human being in my eyes -- he sold his own sister to China," Kiab, whose name has been changed to protect her identity, told AFP at a shelter for trafficking victims in the Vietnamese border town Lao Cai.

Vulnerable women in countries close to China -- not only Vietnam but also North Korea, Laos, Cambodia and Myanmar -- are being forced into marriages in the land of the one-child policy, experts say.

China suffers from one of the worst gender imbalances in the world as families prefer male children.

As a result millions of men now cannot find Chinese brides -- a key driver of trafficking, according to rights groups...

[Guest]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wW7c58nMI4

[Flashermac]

It's a common story everywhere they can get away with it. Two different Bangkok BGs have told me how they were sold to Chinese-Thais in Nong Khai as "brides" when they were 14. Both BGs had the same story: a rich businessman paid their poor family 1 million baht to "marry" them. The girl had no say in the matter; the family wanted the money. After a year, the "husband" dumped them and bought himself a new one. Since they were "used material", they figured they may as well work in the bars.

[khunsanuk]

Hi,

 

Takes a special kind of parent to do that. I'm certain my brother-in-law would kick the crap out of any guy making such an offer, and he's very likely in a similar financial situation as the families.

 

Sanuk!

[Mekong]

It's a common story everywhere they can get away with it. Two different Bangkok BGs have told me how they were sold to Chinese-Thais in Nong Khai as "brides" when they were 14. Both BGs had the same story: a rich businessman paid their poor family 1 million baht to "marry" them. The girl had no say in the matter; the family wanted the money. After a year, the "husband" dumped them and bought himself a new one. Since they were "used material", they figured they may as well work in the bars.

 

Flash, what Cav posted and what you replied are two separate issues. Lao Cai is a rural province in Northern VN closer to Kunming than it is to Hanoi, the issue is not "Rent a Bride" There are many Chinese even as far away as Guangzhou which is a very industrialised city who come to Lao Cai, Ha Giang and Cao Bang to name a few towns along the border.

 

Due to the failed one family one child policy implemented in China back in 1979 there are now many more 30 something Chinese Males living a "Middle Class" Lifestyle who cannot find a partner in PRC and are looking overseas. VN is a lot cheaper than HK or Macau, it is no longer the preserve of the Thai-Chinese Businessman renting a bride for 12 months, these guys are serious.

 

I have only been in Northern VN for about 9 months now but personally know of three women who have married Chinese gents for money, and they have brokered themselves not sold off by family members, one of them is back already it failed and she ran away.

 

Also the VN economy is taking a major hit at the moment the VND has gone from 20,300 to the $ 21,300 at todays rate, approx a 5% devaluation in my short time here driven by central government to attract overseas investments with the ongoing dispute over the Pratas Islands in Bien Dong (East Sea).

 

I am not claiming to be an expert on North Vietnam, FFS over 25 Years in SE Asia and still learning new things everyday, but maybe, just maybe, I may have a so called "Finger on the Pulse" so to speak of the situation. For the record the one who is now back was my Document Controller, she was swayed by the offer from one of my Chinese contractors who was on site many occasions, now she is begging for her old job back.

[Flashermac]

From what I remember, the Vietnamese dislike the Chinese much more than the Thais do. I'm surprised at Viet women marrying them.

[baa99]

Greed trumps all.

[Mekong]

From what I remember, the Vietnamese dislike the Chinese much more than the Thais do. I'm surprised at Viet women marrying them.

 

Flash,

 

The side of the line you were on during your unscheduled trip here many years ago are anti Chinese, in fact they are anti North / Hanoi and Visa Versa. It really does feel like 2 separate countries, whilst not as bad as the Korean peninsular obviously it does have a similar feel to it.

 

If one was to check the National Flag Carriers website, Vietnam Airlines the option is Ho Chi Minh City and not Saigon even the the airport code is SGN, in the North Bia Ha Noi and Thang Long Cigarettes are widely available with very few places selling Bia Saigon and in Saigon Thang Long are as rare as rocking horse shit and Marlboro are most popular and Bia Saigon is available everywhere.

 

There are a few Saigon people in Ha Noi for business reasons, but nowhere the percentage you would find in most other countries where the populous tend to be drawn towards the Capital, in fact Saigon has a larger population than Ha Noi even though Ha Noi is 50% bigger in area, similar to New York or Sydney having the feel of the Capital city even though they are not. The difference between NYC and Sydney is that they are both the International Financial HQ of the respective countries where as International Finance is an alien concept in the Socialist Republic.

 

The latest round of posturing with China over the disputed East Sea (Bien Dong), yes there were "Party Staged" protest marches in Ha Noi, mainly to save face a bit of toothless sabre rattling, but the burning and looting of Chinese business occurred in and around Saigon, when the Chinese Navy evacuated 4,000 Chinese a few weeks back that was from Vung Ang port about 45 KM from Saigon at the same time Chinese Merchant ships were still landing and disembarking goods at Hai Phong Port.

 

So basically China is disliked in the South Just as much as Ha Noi, Saigon treats South China and Ha Noi with the same contempt and mistrust and conversely most Northern Vietnamese / Ha Noi feel closer ties to Southern China than to the South and Ho Chi Minh City (Saigon is NEVER used in the North)

[Flashermac]

During the war, a Southerner told me that North and South had fought each other twice before, and the South won both times. He was confident that would happen again ... but was obviously wrong. A uni colleague some years back was an engineer from Dalat. He was too young to remember the war, but he told me the North moved many families down to keep an eye on the Southerners after the "liberation". Also, for many years Southerners could not hold a rank in the army higher than corporal, plus there were no entirely Southern units. Maybe it should be two countries.

[baa99]

The North fought the Chinese.

 

http://time.com/100417/china-vietnam-sino-vietnamese-war-south-china-sea/

 

In the winter of 1978, when Deng Xiaoping made his threat of a “lesson,†more than 80,000 Chinese troops were sent across the border into Vietnam. Chinese Deputy Defense Minister Su Yu boasted of being able to take Hanoi in a week, but the untested and under-equipped People’s Liberation Army (PLA) met fierce resistance from battle-hardened Vietnamese forces deployed across the frontier’s limestone karsts. The Chinese were slaughtered by local militia from positions that had been utilized for centuries against invaders from the north.

 

...

 

It would take just six weeks for Beijing to call off its “self-defensive counteroffensive.†Teaching the Vietnamese a lesson turned out to be a costly affair. Official casualty statistics have never been released by either Beijing or Hanoi; however, analysts have estimate that as many as 50,000 soldiers died during the confrontation.