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sandbags sandbags sandbags. thats all we hear in the news regarding flooding. when will they come up with better ways to deal with this??

 

Change must come at so many levels:

 

 

- professional crisis center with a clear structure of command

- new protocols how to deal with natural disasters

- scientists and engineers need to run the concerned departments, not incompetent politicians

- specialists at national and local levels

- reclaiming traditional flood zones

- new streets/rail roads/industrial areas, e.g. must confirm with the flood and water management plans...

- ... which means they need a professional water management

- re-forestation

- re-vitalizing the Klongs in BKK.

 

By the way, the Japanese weren't well prepared when the huge earthquake hit Kobe in 1995, with thousands of deaths and the collapse of major infrastructures like elevated highways. Helpers were overwhelmed and the military needed several days until it went to the epicenter.

But the Japanese learnt from it and installed a new crisis center, set up a new chain of command, changed the building codes concerning earthquakes and upgraded their disaster response plans.

That's why only very few people died this spring in Japan during the most severe earthquake since 1.000 years (Fukushima is a different matter) and that's why for example it took just 3-5 days for the Japanese to repair heavily damaged major roads into the earthquake/Tsunami zone.

 

IMHO it will take at least one more flood disaster until the Thai government will _try_ to implement real changes.

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I've seen sandbag floodwalls through up in the US, and they have always been like an inverted V. What I've seen in LOS look more like a blastwalls we built around the bases of our buildings in RVN to stop mortar shrapnel.

 

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Here is a very simple link for homeowners with information on the proper use of sandbags: http://ladpw.org/wmd/homeowners/sandbags.cfm If the sandbags are more than two layers high, they should be backed by a wall or someother solid structure. If not, they should be pyramid shaped. I am no expert, but this makes commonsense to me,

 

But this is not I am seeing with some of the structures going up around the city. But I am sure the authorities know what they are doing and following the advice of experts rather than grandstanding with hopeless schemes, right? No need to be concerned: the ever competent Thai government has it all under control. :rolleyes::reindeer:

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Govt slammed for lack of boats, relief

 

Furious residents claim response was too slow

 

Naris Pankhem, a resident of Imperial Place housing estate, said there was no warning from the government or local authorities that floodwater in Bang Bua Thong district would rise to more than 1 metre, leaving no time for many residents to prepare for the flooding.

 

"We have to leave our community immediately," Mr Naris said. "If we stay here, we will be cut off from the outside world. Most of us will evacuate to take refuge at shelters. I believe residents at other flood-hit housing estates are facing the same plight."

 

The flooding in Bang Bua Thong reached a critical level yesterday as floodwaters kept rising, a source said. Many flood victims were still trapped in their houses as water in some areas rose to almost 2m.

 

At Ua Arthorn Bang Bua Thong housing estate, water was almost at the ceiling level of the first floor of two-storey houses.

 

Bang Bua Thong municipality clerk Det Ingkhasit yesterday said the municipality had inadequate boats to evacuate residents and provide relief items to residents trapped in flood-hit communities. Those wanting to donate their boats could contact the municipality.

 

Ms Chidchanok Long-ngarn, a resident of Seranee Lagoon housing estate in Bang Bua Thong, said floodwater rose to 40cm in the housing estate.

 

She decided not to evacuate as she had already moved belongings to the upper floor of her flooded house. So far, the electric and water supplies have not been cut off, she said.

 

The government's Flood Relief Operations Command (Froc) yesterday sent boats from the three armed forces and police to help evacuate flood victims in Nonthaburi.

 

Froc spokesman Wim Rungwattanajinda said boats from the three armed forces and police have been sent to help evacuate residents in Nonthaburi, particularly Bang Bua Thong district. Those wanting to evacuate could contact the centre via the hotline 1131 and tel 02-241-1709, 02-504-3569 and 02-534-1911.

 

Chaos erupted in Bangkok's Don Muang area at 6pm yesterday when a group of angry residents seized a backhoe from Nonthaburi's Pak Kret municipal workers to destroy an earth dyke at Srisamarn intersection. The dyke was being built to prevent overflow from Khlong Prapa canal.

 

The residents' action caused water from the canal to inundate areas around the intersection.

 

Health officials assisted in the evacuation of the disabled, elderly and sick people trapped in their flooded houses in Nonthaburi and Pathum Thani provinces to safer places.

 

People with health problems were rushed to hospitals.

 

Public Health Minister Witthaya Buranasiri said disabled, elderly and sick people wanting to be evacuated from their houses could contact the ministry via its 1669 hotline.

 

In Pathum Thani, an embankment at Pinehurst Golf Club in Khlong Luang district gave way yesterday. Many houses and an electronics factory were engulfed in water about 1m to 2m high.

 

Overflow from Khlong Prem Prachakorn yesterday flooded thousands of houses in tambon Khlong Neung of Khlong Luang district.

 

Several communities in tambon Bang Pun of Pathum Thani's Muang district on the eastern side of the Chao Phraya River were worst hit. Officials rushed to move flood victims to higher ground as water rose to more than 2m to 3m in tambon Bang Pun.

 

In Nakhon Pathom, floodwater yesterday ravaged Preuksa 31 housing estate in Buddha Monthon district, affecting more than 400 households. Water was about 1m high.

 

BP

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Hi,

 

"Chaos erupted in Bangkok's Don Muang area at 6pm yesterday when a group of angry residents seized a backhoe from Nonthaburi's Pak Kret municipal workers to destroy an earth dyke at Srisamarn intersection."

 

While I can understand people being frustrated, doing things like this is very selfish. Wonder what happens to people doing this kind of thing? Do they face prosecution?

 

Sanuk!

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If the sandbags are more than two layers high, they should be backed by a wall or someother solid structure. If not, they should be pyramid shaped. I am no expert, but this makes commonsense to me,

 

But this is not I am seeing with some of the structures going up around the city.

 

 

Commonsense is not a trait usually associated with Thai's, in fact it is severely lacking amongst majority of races / nationalities.

 

As my Grand father used to say " M it is not commonsense but Uncommon sense, it it was common every bugger would have it!"

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Hi,

 

"Chaos erupted in Bangkok's Don Muang area at 6pm yesterday when a group of angry residents seized a backhoe from Nonthaburi's Pak Kret municipal workers to destroy an earth dyke at Srisamarn intersection."

 

While I can understand people being frustrated, doing things like this is very selfish. Wonder what happens to people doing this kind of thing? Do they face prosecution?

 

Sanuk!

 

 

Can pigs fly? :(

 

Meanwhile, another one goes glub glub:

 

 

Bang Kadi industrial estate flooded

 

Bang Kadi industrial estate in Pathum Thani has been totally flooded, with the water almost two metres deep, reports said on Friday morning.

 

A large number of management staff and workers have been stranded in their factories, according to the reports.

 

It is the seventh industrial site to be inundated by floodwater. :doah:

 

 

 

 

BP

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