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On 8/3/2020 at 5:13 PM, chocolat steve said:

I hope and pray this drug is the wonder drug Trump says it is

The FDA revoked emergency use authorization. Studies have shown no benefit.

https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/coronavirus-covid-19-update-fda-revokes-emergency-use-authorization-chloroquine-and

 

The agency determined that the legal criteria for issuing an EUA are no longer met. Based on its ongoing analysis of the EUA and emerging scientific data, the FDA determined that chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine are unlikely to be effective in treating COVID-19 for the authorized uses in the EUA. Additionally, in light of ongoing serious cardiac adverse events and other potential serious side effects, the known and potential benefits of chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine no longer outweigh the known and potential risks for the authorized use. This is the statutory standard for issuance of an EUA.

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3 hours ago, baa99 said:

But you only need a few parameters to determine the equilibrium temperature and pH level of the oceans.

equilibrium

what it would do,  if it stayed at one temperature, has it ever stayed at one temperature?  Or one pH?

I'm no scholar, on this, but looking at this document - https://cp.copernicus.org/articles/14/1097/2018/cp-14-1097-2018.pdf    and a having a quick and rough and ready interpretation,  of all the graphs et al, it would seem that the current temperature rise is happening,  sure,  and on the back of, coming out of the middle ages mini ice age, but that before then, it was falling into the middle ages mini ice age....

My point would be, variability, yes, up at the moment, maybe more up soon. But definite, catastrophic, disastrous, doom, - "how can you tell?"

Are humanity the only cause  (as media would suggest) or do Volcanoes, Maunder minimums and such, have anything to do with it?

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Excellent news for all the parents of the world: Top virologist Trump of the Idiots University found out that children are so to say immune against COVID 19. In reality that means that sworn Trump followers shall now send their offsprings to school without any instructions to protect themselves. Reality shall soon step in and Donald would then certainly accuse the Democrats, Hillary and Obama of  contaminating America´s children. Maybe further blaming Europe, not Russia.

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On 8/4/2020 at 4:24 AM, cavanami said:

FYI

Comorbidities: hypertension, hyperlipidemia, diabetes, obesity (body mass index ≥ 30 kg/m2), cardiovascular disease, heart failure, history of stroke, history of deep vein thrombosis or pulmonary embolism, asthma, chronic obstructive pulmonary disease (COPD), other lung disease, kidney disease, liver disease, autoimmune disease, or history of cancer.

The following clinical symptoms of treated patients were documented:
cough/dry cough, fever, SOB, changes of or no smell or taste, sore throat, headache, runny nose/clear rhinorrea, sinus congestion, diarrhea/vomiting, cold symptoms, feeling sick, weakness, and low back pain.

Triple therapy for 5 consecutive days in addition to standard supportive care: zinc sulfate (220 mg capsule once daily, containing 50 mg elemental zinc), HCQ (200 mg twice daily), and azithromycin (500 mg once daily).

Politics and medicine are not a good mix. The push from the right about it is PURELY because Trump hailed it early on. Nothing else. And it seems like any skepticism about it, no matter if its from independent doctors and medical professional, researchers is immediately a 'never Trumper' who is willing to cost lives to make a political point. 

That's my issue. Why not let the medical professional decide it? It's out there in the ether. Doctors take an hippocratic oath. They aren't going to dismiss its use for political reasons. In real time, desperate, no NYC physician who may be a democrat is going to say 'hmm..no, not gonna use it if it works because Trump pushed it'. It doesn't happen. If its any good, if it works with a combination of things or whatever, doctors will use it. If they aren't they have valid reasons. 

So, why keep pushing a drug to the masses from non medical people when its not their decision? Its up the hospital and treating physician. If they deem it worthy, they'll use it. 

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18 minutes ago, chocolat steve said:

Politics and medicine are not a good mix.

Very true. Lots of people now are discussing vaccination, wearing masks and the goddamned hydroxychloroqine(did I get it right?). The latter does only exist in public because Trump got obsessed with it. Wearing masks has successfully been conquered now by the ubiquitous conspiracy freaks who seem to have superior knowledge in health science as locally Dr Cavanami has about hydroxychloroquine (made it again). Look at those lunatics, they are lining up along a road in far Eastern Germany every Sunday to lead a war against .. well, something. Asked by reporters what this is all about they get angry.

So seht das Protest-Spalier im sächsischen Oppach aus.

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12 hours ago, chocolat steve said:

So, why keep pushing a drug to the masses from non medical people when its not their decision? Its up the hospital and treating physician. If they deem it worthy, they'll use it. 

I still say, the Trump clan has cornered the market in this "hydroxychloroqine"

12 hours ago, buffalo_bill said:

hydroxychloroqine(did I get it right?)

My preferred iteration is HydroChloroGin&Tonic.

:)

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20 hours ago, Coss said:

Are humanity the only cause  (as media would suggest) or do Volcanoes, Maunder minimums and such, have anything to do with it?

The output of CO2 of volcanic activity has been measured and is not the cause of the observed CO2 increases.

https://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2019-10/tca-sqg092419.php

CO2 out-gassed to the atmosphere and oceans today from volcanoes and other magmatically active regions is estimated at 280 to 360 million tonnes (0.28 to 0.36 Gt) per year, including that released into the oceans from mid-ocean ridges
Humanity's annual carbon emissions through the burning of fossil fuels and forests, etc., are 40 to 100 times greater than all volcanic emissions.

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These Two Charts Should Land Dr. Fauci in Prison

Figures don't lie but liars do figure...The countries that used hydroxychloroquine early on, had a much lower death rate!

The Association of American Physicians and Surgeons (AAPS) is a leading non-partisan professional association of physicians across the United States.

Today the AAPS filed a motion for a preliminary injunction to compel the release to the public of hydroxychloroquine by the Food & Drug Administration (FDA) and the Department of Health & Human Services (HHS).

Here are two charts that show hydroxychloroquine’s effectiveness in treating the coronavirus.

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And here is another chart proving the effectiveness of hydroxychloroquine.

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https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/08/two-charts-put-dr-fauci-prison/

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The recurring theme. Trump administration worker doesn't show absolute fealty to Trump, his supporters attack him. The good doctor is guilty of disagreeing. That's it. Nothing more. Now he's a criminal that needs to be prosecuted. He's still part of the administration. 

 

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