buddha Posted November 19, 2003 Report Share Posted November 19, 2003 I am interested to know if that perhaps recently there was an incident between your girl and the security guard in question? Girls that would often visit me at my apartment would often comment on the rudeness of a couple security guards who were constantly making comments about visiting a falang. Note that these were not prostitutes. His behavior in front of me escorting a lady was quite different than when the lady arrived alone. This was one specific guard and not the whole staff. It went on for some time until I noticed one really sweet, yet timid girl was arriving very upset, repeatedly. She was nothing more than a good friend who would help me with my thai in exchange for english. I had to drag it out of her. I pulled the guard aside and politically explained he was making my life miserable. He thought it was funny but did scale back his comments. I would not hesitate to compare HIM to a dog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Hippie Posted November 19, 2003 Report Share Posted November 19, 2003 "... I just wanted to pick a fight to gain "leverage" something that I learned from you women Unfortunately for me it blew up in my face and worked in her favor..." When will we men learn, we cannot out do a woman when it comes to romance or REVENGE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 19, 2003 Report Share Posted November 19, 2003 >>>Fly, is it what you realized after living there and learning Thai? I'm not saying you are in wrong. Just the fact that Thais are so discriminate with their own keen.<<< that is one of the not so nice things here - thai society can be classist to the extreme. it's fortunately not everone, but nowadays i do not take my missus to certain unavoidable social events as it would be just too painful for her. that's the way how things are, as much as i would like to change it, i am afraid that it is not in my power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
think_too_mut Posted November 19, 2003 Report Share Posted November 19, 2003 >I am interested to know if that perhaps recently there was an incident between your girl and the security guard in question? Not at all with the building security but I know what you mean. On her way to school, my gf has to walk through a golf range that has a parking lot attached to it. Security guards sitting there would always say something to her. She is one of many girls in school uniforms passing by every day, she's never been seen there in her "civil" clothes. Shortly after reoccurring incidents, she asked me to drive through the carpark, although it was more of a hassle to get the car out of the building than driving 200m to her school. Her reasoning: the guard would see her with same farang in a car several times and will realize she is married or that they won't be able to match the goodies that come with a farang. Indeed, they left her alone. Several other girls from her class did the same with their Thai boyfriends, with cars or riding behind them on motorbikes. (Driving or biking, every wehicle has to stop and pay 10Bht passage fee, hence each person in/on it can be properly looked at by the guard). When I think, it was also a class concious exercise. It was not enough just to walk with someone, a car/motorbike had to be involved. As to calling them dogs, now I don't know. Perhaps I had no need/chance to press hard enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasmine Posted November 19, 2003 Report Share Posted November 19, 2003 [color:"red"] I am curious how it can be such a contrast given how polite she is with the guards when they do the odds and ends in the builing. [/color] Getting people to do things for you does not mean "having intimate" feelings nor respect for the person. I talked to anyone and make sure that I give Christmas gifts to personnel such as guards, cleaning persons but I will be very upset if someone thinks I would sleep with any of them. IMO, she used "dog" in the context of the person "below" her and many Thais, especially women are quite particular of getting intimate with someone and will not choose the one she considers "below" her. A few of my friends are still single because they could not see marrying someone who has less education (PhD) than them. I don't understand them but that is what many Thai women believe. I posted once that my smiling and friendliness led me into hot water a couple times here in the States. Somehow, some men interpret the "friendliness" as a sign of wanting more than friendship Ask Hubby whether I am friendly to the security guards at work, he will say a big "Yes" becuase it is better that way especially when I had to go into the office in the middle of the nights. I know I sound selfish, what can I say? By the way, may Thai females seem to drop the class and education requirements for the Western men though. :: Jasmine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasmine Posted November 19, 2003 Report Share Posted November 19, 2003 Hi TTM, IMO, Fly is quite on the target. Many Thais feel the same way towards their servants, they are there to serve, no more, no less. Jasmine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
think_too_mut Posted November 19, 2003 Report Share Posted November 19, 2003 >Many Thais feel the same way towards their servants, they are there to serve, no more, no less. That's what makes cabin service on Thai Airways so lousy: a job of a flight attendant appears to be a lifetime achievement in Thailand, available only to higher class girls/boys. All of a sudden, they are put in the position to serve others! (Just my first impression, after 12 hours with them on 2 different flights) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 19, 2003 Report Share Posted November 19, 2003 no doubt about it jasmine we are in a class of our own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khwaimaisabai Posted November 19, 2003 Report Share Posted November 19, 2003 Says jjsushi: My logic was useless against her belief in what she interpreted. Hi jj, She is a woman. Logic and rational thought are irrelevant. Khwai Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Hippie Posted November 20, 2003 Report Share Posted November 20, 2003 "...That's what makes cabin service on Thai Airways so lousy: a job of a flight attendant appears to be a lifetime achievement in Thailand, available only to higher class girls/boys. All of a sudden, they are put in the position to serve others!..." Then how do you explain the extreamely rude old bitties on many/all U.S. carriers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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