ABCinBK Posted February 18, 2004 Report Share Posted February 18, 2004 My post makes it pretty clear. I am talking about men married or having a bargirl as a girlfriend, who are mostly Thai guys. The sex tourists I'm referring to are the ones the bargirls screw for Baht, and I think my first reply is pretty clear on this. You asked how the guys with Thai bargirls as girlfriend/wives likely think and I gave a reply. It may not massage the egos or hopes of sanukers (sex tourists), but given the situation and results these men have in relationships with the bargirls, compared to the average punter, it seems a plausable enough explanatation. I was pointing out the implicit assumption you are making about punters who pay to screw these bargirls. Too much was assumed about their actually having any real "relationship status" with the bargirls, while trying to play down the relationship status of the actual boyfriend or husband. Who is really getting the scraps of what's important in a remotely real relationship here? The bargirls go back to the Thai (or occasional farang) lovers, sometimes only going ST so they can spend time with their real lovers. They often give them money and support them, following the often quoted (though not neccessarily true) Thai idea of paying for the ones they really love. They give their time, their emotions, and their money to these guys who supposedly only get a scrap of sex and time, as you put it in your original post. Yet, it's the farangs, despite their LT and often trip-long paid girlfriend fantasies, that get scammed, lied to, and used so often. Who is really getting the scraps? I think it's easy to get confused between what's real and what's "time on the meter" with bargirls, especially when one is the punter living the fantasy that the bargirls are just girls and we are just the hot, yet old, farang on the block. That just isn't the way it is, in general. When exactly did clients become more important in anyone's (including bargirls) personal lives as compared to actual lovers? No, I wouldn't want my wife to screw other men, but then what distinction would there be in her screwing for money or not? The problem is in her screwing around, wouldn't it be? And exactly how does some sex tourist gain status in his activities, as opposed to a Thai bf or husband that allows it to go on? Kind of like the dirty pig calling the water buffalo unclean. The the real bf or husband is the one closer to the real relationship here, and as I mentioned, the fact the bargirl is doing it for money, with customers stereotyped (often true but not always so) as unattractive, socially lacking, and good only for their money, likely makes it easier to accept as opposed to say a "real lover on the side". Think about it....would you feel more threatened by a guy the bargirl actually found attractive and had something in common with, or some older punter seen primarily as a walking ATM? Yes, there's a lot of stereotypes here, but then the question is generic and non-specific too. But it certainly seemed to make it seem the punters had some advantage in any kind of real relationship with a bargirl, and that's not how it plays out. If it did, why are so many punters worried about these Thai boyfriends who only "get scraps" on the side? ABC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pattaya127 Posted February 19, 2004 Report Share Posted February 19, 2004 She gets into trouble, and has someone who will be there, and help her out of it. They give her a stable anchor, in her otherwise unstable life. If she happens to not be pulling tricks on a particular night, she will not have to be alone for the night ---------------- Very few girls i have known here in Pattaya, meaning Gfs or my Gfs, were usually single. I am one to think it's not as much as one thinks. But of the ones i know had Bfs, even little waitresses, non-Bgs working in the sewrvice industry, the BF always was basically living off them, and certainly no anchor. Most of the drama i heard were about the little ass sleeping around. IMO, any thai guy who accepts that his GF P4Ps does not have any self-esteem (which is OK), and is no man (which is not). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pattaya127 Posted February 19, 2004 Report Share Posted February 19, 2004 And how they can wrap their head around the fact their partner is prostituting herself ------------------------- just to put some water in my wine, it is true that some of these young guys are struggling with their GF's needs for sending money home. Many fights and arguments over it and There has been a few thai movies made around that topic. Like any Romeo and Juliette story anywhere, darkness and society trying to destroy innocence and Love! Beautiful..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyk Posted February 19, 2004 Report Share Posted February 19, 2004 A lot of the BFs are little more than layabout pimps. Same class of guy who lives off his GFs pussy in the west. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 19, 2004 Report Share Posted February 19, 2004 I used to live with an 'escort' in the UK. When I found out what she did for a living I insisted that she stop. She asked me if I was going to pay for her 'high end' apartment in the West End of London. That was the end of that discussion. Though I never asked her for money, she kept me in the style that she was accustomed to. She gave me £80 just to hand out as tips when we went to a night club. She'd call a black cab to collect my dinner from the expensive restaurants that didn't do takeaways. It would arrive on plates covered in aluminium foil. I tried to encourage her NOT to spend her money, but to save it. She even accepted the fact that I had a girlfriend and gave me £50 at the weekends to take her out and the use the second bedroom for ... Towards the end I felt that I had lost any incentive to do anything for myself, so decided to leave and move into my own place. You know the BG cares if she spends HER money on YOU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.. Posted February 19, 2004 Report Share Posted February 19, 2004 LOL! That's about right. The other 45% or so have girlfriends ! Cheers, SD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABCinBK Posted February 19, 2004 Report Share Posted February 19, 2004 Valentino, Thanks for the insight. Hopefully, it gave everyone a dose of reality (in this matter). ABC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyk Posted February 19, 2004 Report Share Posted February 19, 2004 valentinoxxx said:I used to live with an 'escort' in the UK. When I found out what she did for a living I insisted that she stop. She asked me if I was going to pay for her 'high end' apartment in the West End of London. That was the end of that discussion. Though I never asked her for money, she kept me in the style that she was accustomed to. She gave me £80 just to hand out as tips when we went to a night club. She'd call a black cab to collect my dinner from the expensive restaurants that didn't do takeaways. It would arrive on plates covered in aluminium foil. I tried to encourage her NOT to spend her money, but to save it. She even accepted the fact that I had a girlfriend and gave me £50 at the weekends to take her out and the use the second bedroom for ... Towards the end I felt that I had lost any incentive to do anything for myself, so decided to leave and move into my own place. You know the BG cares if she spends HER money on YOU. Quite an experience! Everybody should have that at least once. BTW, was she too tired to phuck when she came home? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarfman_II Posted February 20, 2004 Report Share Posted February 20, 2004 HT Nobody seems to have any insight on your original question so here it is. NOTE: the following IMO applies to a great majority of said relationships. They're in it for the money, so there is no wrapping their heads around the fact that their GF/Wife is screwing other people. c'mon look at them - dark, dirty little motorcycle dudes lurking about. if they were to find honest jobs they'd be bringing in 150 baht a day - 300 baht wife included. so sheeit its a jackpot if the ho can bring home 1k+ per night. if it wasnt about money then u'd sure see alot more office type guys picking up their girlfriends then wouldnt you? fact is people that make their own money would prefer not to have a hooker GF because the pain and embarrassment is greater than the profit. that leaves the scum of the earth to pick up where upstanding citizens have left off. and what motivates scum of the earth? love? compassion?.... hope this answers yer question HT. its as clear as daylight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
think_too_mut Posted February 20, 2004 Report Share Posted February 20, 2004 >that leaves the scum of the earth to pick up where upstanding citizens have left off. and what motivates scum of the earth? love? compassion?.... ...and farangs are in and after their wives/gfs working in the bars? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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