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Old Hippie said:

Oh wow, like ytou own a house in the valley? Narley! that is like so rad bitchin and tubular...I would sayyou like totally for sure own like your like your home , but I mean god, like totally no way any Indian or mexican can say he owns it like I think NO way!

 

Flahermac, you call Valley slang English? :)

 

OMG, gag me. That's just totally grody.

 

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[color:"red"]"Also, southernmost Arizona-New Mexico was SOLD to the US by the Mexican government (the Gadsden Purchase). Santa Ana was back in as Mexican prez and needed money."[color:"black"]

 

Many believe this was not a legal sale. It is claimed the money went into Santa Ana's pocket not into the Mexican banks. There is some evidence that some of the money went into US pockets also, such as some railroad companies. To make things worse, this purchase was in 1853 but it took a while for whites to move into the area. After they began moving in, the US civil war broke out. Being the area had no military forts, only camps, when the Civil War broke out, the soldiers were ordered to burn their supplies they could not carry and their camps and were ordered to leave the area. White civilians soon folowed this course. When this happened, the land went back essentially to the Indians, especially the Apaches. When the war broke out and the South wanted that land to put a railroad thru to California, the Rebels came and occupied the land. Then the Union came and kicked the Rebels out. The Civil War ended and there was mass confusion as to who owned what. For example, those who had owned mines before the war, found when they returned to the territory, in many cases, that somebody else owned the mines.

To make matters worse, communities were established, but in many cases the proper paper work was not always filed. As an example, Tombstone when it was established, sold town sites to who ever wanted to buy. Some clever people followed the paper trail and found out the paper work was not done properly. Consequently, the second group resold a new townsite over the first townsite. Others got in on the game and even sold lots to another townsite that overlapped the first two Tombstone townsites. Some historians claim one of the reasons for the famous O. K. gunfight dealt over the conflicting issue of land ownership.

In the early 1900's, a whole community called Contention City had to leave the area because the courts claimed one person owned the land where many were settled. Those people had to leave and were not compensated. They lost everything.

 

Then there is the issue of mineral rights and land rights. Even today in Tombstone, some are still battling over the issue of mineral rights.

 

 

If one wants to be nasty, they can do what some were doing back in the 1880's and that is have the property resurveyed. Resurveyed, not using nearby markers, but markers that are some distance away. Surveying is not 100% precise and because of the lack of precision, some have found that their neighbor's house is now really on their land. A nice trick that sometimes work. Also having a nice lawyer seems to be the key to everything.

 

 

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...and there was mass confusion as to who owned what. For example, those who had owned mines before the war, found when they returned to the territory, in many cases, that somebody else owned the mines.

To make matters worse, communities were established, but in many cases the proper paper work was not always filed. As an example, Tombstone when it was established, sold town sites to who ever wanted to buy. Some clever people followed the paper trail and found out the paper work was not done properly. Consequently, the second group resold a new townsite over the first townsite. Others got in on the game and even sold lots to another townsite that overlapped the first two Tombstone townsites. Some historians claim one of the reasons for the famous O. K. gunfight dealt over the conflicting issue of land ownership.

In the early 1900's, a whole community called Contention City had to leave the area because the courts claimed one person owned the land where many were settled. Those people had to leave and were not compensated. They lost everything.

Change a few words of this, and you can be describing the present day situation on property ownership in certain areas of Thailand, such as Phuket and Koh Samui.
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