Please Don't Call them Whores!

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After reading all of this, all I can think to ask is:

Since when does "what you do for a living" = "who/what you are" as a person?

I've had some pretty dissimilar jobs over the past 30 years - none of which I presently identify with, in terms of being the "essence" of who I am.

All but one of the four total Thai bargirls who have lived with me has at some point ended up referring to herself as a "bad lady". I have always replied:

"Hey, I have done a lot of bad things in my life - things that I would definitely be embarrassed to have dragged out in front of all of my present friends and associates - but I don't think of myself as a bad man.

So it is with you, lovely friend - you've done your fair share of nasty things, but that's all behind you. I like what I see in you now, I like how you treat your family and the people around you. Don't look back."

"Character" is what is really important. Character has little to do with profession, or passing circumstance.

When I read posts on this and other boards, I try to sense the "character" of the writer. I sense that a lot of the "maeng da" wannabes who spew their macho BS on these boards wouldn't make good drinking companions for a sewer cockroach.

Then I think back to the early 1950's - to the story of two French Army battalions cut off behing Vietminh lines in what is now Vietnam. A B.M.C. (Bordel Mobile de Campagne) is airlifted into the encircled airhead at Lai-Chau. The B.M.C. is staffed with legendary ladies from the Oulad-Nail tribe of Morocco. Well, Lai-Chau has a small platoon-sized outpost protecting one of the approach routes. 48 km away, at Tsinh-Ho, through enemy-held territory. The French commander at Lai Chau asks for two voluteers from the brothel to go "service" the men at Tsinh-Ho. Many girls volunteer, but only two are selected - dressed up in combat gear, packing their flowing gowns into backpacks, they head out with an infantry commando escort. 48 hours of trekking through Vietnamese jungle - the column is ambushed along the way, fight their way through. The ladies perform their morale-building task at Tsinh-Ho, then finish up with another 48 hour march back to Lai-Chau, still under fire. Volunteers. Just "whores"? Not to me.

Character is forged, it doesn't just form spontaneously from the bird shit out of which some of the loud-mouth posters appear to be composed.

The character of Thai bargirls runs the full spectrum from angelic to devil incarnate. To sterotype all under one classification is ridiculous.

Who are we to be the judges in all this, anyway? One thing I'm sure of - the types of people that end up on boards such as these (me included) are pretty far off-center, as far as the rest of the world is concerned.

Whatever.

Cheers!

Bangkok Butterfly

[sidsanuk]

Just thought I would throw in my 10 satangs worth.

IMHO anyone who refers to BGs as 'whores' does not understand the fundamental economic and cultural differences between BGs and their Western conterparts. You need only to see the number of farang that marry BGs to underline that.

How many Sydney or New York businessmen do you know that married local hookers!

"Pretty Woman" is alive and well in LOS. LOL

I certainly take offence at the use of the term whore, which is far more appropriate to a street girl in Sydney, New York or London.

Whilst BGs in LOS ply the same trade, it is generally through economic necessity (if you did not know, there is no such thing as the dole, welfare etc in LOS). But they make the best of their lot and do so with some degree of dignity and good humour.

Call a girl a whore and treat a girl like a whore, she will act like a whore. Call her a 'rental girlfriend', treat her like a girl friend and she acts like your girlfriend.

Maybe through many trips to LOS the Budhist culture is starting to rub off, :-)) but I find that what you give........ you get in return.

Shit.... I have made a couple of real long term friendships with BGs. Because they were genuinely nice people.

Have a heart :-)

Sid

Amateur Philosopher and Incurable Romantic :-))

[Guest]

What do the Thai guy's call 'em? I think it sounds like "gully", and its even harsher than "whore".

[Guest]

I'll take your word for it on "Garri", but I just used it on my Thai live in and got no response, but the old reliable "Gully" gets her screaming every time.

She calls herself a student, been her two months sat three lectures, takes money off me hand over fist, out every night drinking, smells like a "Garri,Gully,Whore" to me.

[Guest]

Originally posted by herpesv2:

"What do the Thai guy's call 'em? I think it sounds like "gully", and its even harsher than "whore"."

It's "garri" and it's the strongest Thai word for "whore" that I know of.

Another one would be "dork thong"(golden flower), which was supposed to be a euphemism, but it's also a pretty bad term these days.

[BkkShaggy]

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Originally posted by peesooahbkk:

After reading all of this, all I can think to ask is:

Since when does "what you do for a living" = "who/what you are" as a person?....

.."Character" is what is really important. Character has little to do with profession, or passing circumstance...

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Is it possible that when in a certain profession for a certain time, the "charactor" might change somewhat???

Just a thought!!

[Guest]

Originally posted by BkkShaggy:

"Is it possible that when in a certain profession for a certain time, the "charactor" might change somewhat???"

I certainly think so. I once met an undertaker, who hailed from a whole family of undertakers, and he was one of the most unhappy and sinister looking persons I've ever seen.

How come we can often tell a woman is a prostitute even if we see her in completely uncompromising surroundings? Because something in her mental set-up has changed; there is a certain air of availability about her, coupled often with some kind of predatory demeanour.

Well, just trying to be an amateur Sigmund Freud today ...