was_usvirgin Posted December 23, 2006 Report Share Posted December 23, 2006 Fair enough, CB. I think what surprised me about this particular ad was the modernness of it and how targeted it appears to be. 'Grow up and become a man' has always been the theme, but this one seems to also say, 'Stop being a confused drug addict." Unless I'm reading too much into it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashermac Posted December 23, 2006 Report Share Posted December 23, 2006 The Feds ended conscription, when it looked like the politicians were going to lose those deferments or nice cushy nests for their own kids. When you had conscription, plenty of people enlisted because they knew they'd be drafted anyway. Nowadays, the money is pretty good -- considering the alternatives. Military pay used to be absolute crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julian2 Posted December 23, 2006 Report Share Posted December 23, 2006 Could be a message to parents, the Army will turn your kid into a man. Drive him down to the recruiting office now. Free overseas travel to exotic destinations included in the deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nervous_Dog Posted December 23, 2006 Report Share Posted December 23, 2006 CB, been through bangkok lately? hard to ignore xmas and i assume usa would be worse dog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashermac Posted December 23, 2006 Report Share Posted December 23, 2006 I trained with a young kid whose mother forced him to sign up. I saw her once -- nasty person! -- and she told him the Army was making a man of him. BS! The guy was thick as a brick and it's a wonder he didn't shoot himself by mistake or blow himself up on the grenade range. I have the feeling he probably got an early discharge, once the Army realised just how absolutely hopeless the kid was. (Or maybe they made him an officer ...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashermac Posted December 23, 2006 Report Share Posted December 23, 2006 My secretary, last time I worked in the States, had a friend who was killed by a stray bullet when she was sitting in the bleachers watching a high school game. Seems some Bloods or Crips or the other way around spotted a rival on the street. They promptly shot at him, missed and killed the young gal. Time for the cops to wipe out these gangs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
limbo Posted December 23, 2006 Report Share Posted December 23, 2006 Although I agree that this is not a good situation, the same shit happens in the LOS as well. How many times have innocent bystanders in Thailand been hit or killed just for being in the worng place at the wrong time when guns were used. Mac, Any suggestions how these gangs can be wiped out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashermac Posted December 23, 2006 Report Share Posted December 23, 2006 I had a colleague who was retired from the military police. His idea was to portion off a part of each city as a free fire zone. No one would go there except the gangbangers who wanted to fight each other. Once a week, the city would send in a meat wagon to haul out the bodies. Thus no innocent bystanders had to worry about getting involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCgringo Posted December 23, 2006 Report Share Posted December 23, 2006 There are a few islands off the coast.... too far to swim back with the sharks... ummm Purina Shark chow OC PS....there have always been gangs , look back at the 50s movies , but they had fist fights that may have gone to knife fights , not may bystanders hurt that way, Guns changed all that , drugs made it worse because these guys do not care , Prison is a badge of honour among them no solution really Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangkoktraveler Posted December 23, 2006 Report Share Posted December 23, 2006 Talking about the military.... read the following.... [color:red]A dozen high school military recruiters have been charged with taking bribes to transport cocaine, according to an FBI investigation.[/color] The recruiters, who worked in the Tucson metro area, were exposed by a federal sting called Operation Lively Green, which unfolded in Southern Arizona from 2001-2004. Details of the investigation were made public last year. The Arizona Daily Star, which reviewed the investigation and court documents related to the military recruiters, found that the FBI allowed many recruiters to stay on the job even though they were suspected drug runners. Some were still recruiting three years after they first were caught on camera running drugs in uniform, though none of the recruiters are accused of providing drugs to students. Most have pleaded guilty and will be sentenced in March. Some honorably retired from the military. The sting began in 2001 after the FBI received tips that a former Army National Guardsman was taking bribes to fix military aptitude tests for recruits, FBI Special Agent Adam Radtke said. The FBI put an undercover informant in place to check it out. As the informant was paying to fix a test score in the parking lot of a Tucson restaurant, the recruiter opened the trunk of his vehicle and offered to sell part of a kilogram of cocaine, Radtke said. The Army National guard recruiters later offered their drug-running services to undercover informants who posed as Mexican drug lords during the sting, Radtke said. So far, Operation Lively Green has led to the convictions of 69 members of the military, prison guards, law enforcement employees and other public servants on charges they accepted bribes to help smuggle cocaine. Military officials say the criminal acts of Tucson's recruiters were regrettable but rare. Janice Hagar, a Marine Corps recruiting spokeswoman, pointed out that there are thousands of recruiters working across the country: "This was an isolated incident." Military officials say they kept the recruiters on the job because the FBI told them to leave the suspects alone so as not to jeopardize the sting. The military said it also didn't know some recruiters were under investigation. This isn't the first time the FBI has come under criticism in the Lively Green case. Allegations of sexual misconduct by undercover informants also have dogged the case and could result in reduced punishment for the recruiters and dozens of other defendants. Judy Burns, a governing board member with the Tucson Unified School District, criticized the FBI for allowing the recruiters to stay on the job so long. "It's ludicrous to me that the FBI would leave these people in place and allow them onto our high school campuses," Burns said. "They should have been monitoring them constantly." Monica Young, who has two children attending Tucson high schools, agreed. "It is appalling that recruiters who were known to be involved in such activity were allowed on any school campus," she said. Special Agent Deb McCarley said the FBI generally performs risk assessments before deciding to keep suspects who work in public positions on the job during undercover probes. "We recognize the range of ethical issues that inherently arise in the course of our undercover investigations," McCarley said in an e-mail. "We have sound policies in place" to address such dilemmas, she said, and "this case has been no exception." Found HERE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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