Flashermac Posted September 8, 2007 Report Share Posted September 8, 2007 None of that "love thy neighbour" shit ... ABC News' Jonathan Karl, Pierre Thomas, Luis Martinez and Theresa Cook Report: ABC News has obtained a transcript of the latest taped message from the United States' most wanted terrorist, and a senior U.S. intelligence official has confirmed to ABC News that "initial technical analysis suggests the voice on the tape is indeed Osama Bin Laden." According to the transcript, which can be viewed by clicking here, bin Laden opens with "praise to Allah" and his "law of retaliation" -- "an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth and the killer is killed." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangkoktraveler Posted September 8, 2007 Report Share Posted September 8, 2007 "According to the transcript, bin Laden says there are two ways to end the war: "The first is from our side, and it is to continue to escalate the killing and fighting against you." [color:red]The second is to do away with the American democratic system of government. "It has now become clear to you and the entire world the impotence of the democratic system and how it plays with the interests of the peoples and their blood by sacrificing soldiers and populations to achieve the interests of the major corporations.""[/color] Sounds about right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashermac Posted September 8, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 8, 2007 Time to abandon democracy, huh. Then what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangkoktraveler Posted September 8, 2007 Report Share Posted September 8, 2007 huh? We don't have democracy and freedom. When I can buy Cuba cigars in the USA and the people are allowed to tell the government what to do, maybe I will change my mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashermac Posted September 8, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 8, 2007 Democracy works fine on the local level in the States. But the higher up you go, the more the system becomes a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julian2 Posted September 8, 2007 Report Share Posted September 8, 2007 It's hard to get a truly democratic government where you have the privately owned media wielding enormous influence. I find it ludicrous that anyone who derives their income from wages and salaries or from small business ownership would support a political party totally committed to the interests of big business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bust Posted September 8, 2007 Report Share Posted September 8, 2007 Agree......Indeed, in spite of the war in Iraq and a failing economic policy, George W. Bush successfully won the election of 2004 and beat a fine Democratic slate of John Kerry and John Edwards. Once again, the election hinged on the fringe of one state --- this time, Ohio. And once again, there were verifiable irregularities in Ohio that could easily have thrown the whole thing over to Kerry. George Bush will have spent eight years in office transforming American society and it is doubtful that he was ever really elected legitimately! Bill Clinton spent eight years in the White House and the Republicans were absolutely unrelenting in their numerous attempts to eliminate him, so unhappy were they with their loss of the election of 1992. When Clinton foolishly had sexual relations with an intern and lied about it, they attempted to impeach him. It took a couple years of the nation's attention. However, Bush allowed his powerful friends to take us into war in Iraq and lied over-and-over to the American people and the world in order to cover for them. Somehow we do not seem to believe that this is worthy of impeachment --- not even critical discussion. As a result, almost 2000 American lives have been lost to date, tens of thousands of American service people have been terribly wounded and disabled, tens-upon-tens of thousands of Iraqi citizens have been killed and wounded, Iraq has been totally destabilized and is at the edge of civil war, and terrorists around the world have been given far more inspiration and cause for terrorist attacks than they ever had in 2001. While Bush declares that the world is a safer place, it has in fact become substantially more dangerous. Bush consistently lies about serious and deadly things and gets away with it completely. Clinton lied about having sex and was almost hanged. What has become of American society that this can be? What is truly amazing today is that the majority of Americans do not seem to understand their own needs and interests because they consistently vote against them. Instead, they are inspired by an ingeniously composed Republican rhetoric that seems to support political principles and moral stands while actually doing everything within their power against the interests of ordinary people. Why? The answer seems simple enough. The American mind has been "dumbed down." Critical discourse has been successful extinguished and descriptive discourse, substituted. Everything is superficial. Just watch the evening "news!" Then check out the BBC news or some foreign newspapers. The difference is striking. Americans today are the most dangerous people on earth because they possess the greatest amount of military and economic power in the world and they do not possess the intelligence to use any of it wisely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCorinthian Posted September 8, 2007 Report Share Posted September 8, 2007 I still think that US Democracy is the best system in the world at present. I can think of nothing practiced anywhere else that beats it and the democracies that do have better this or better that tend to live under the protective wing of the US. I.E., no one is going invade Canada as the US would never allow it. Same thing with the NATO states. Ect. It is pretty easy to have 100% literacy when you do not have to pay for your defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashermac Posted September 8, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 8, 2007 What's fine about John Kerry? Everything he has done has been aimed at getting himself elected. He is also extremely rich and hardly represents the average citizen. As to Iraq, he said he would do the same as Bush ... only he'd handle it better. Even so, I was surprised at Bush getting back in. Wouldn't happen now, even if he ran against Lancelot Link. What the country needs is a decent third party choice to make the Dems and Reps both sit up and pay attention to voters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torneyboy Posted September 8, 2007 Report Share Posted September 8, 2007 yes ...wish they would find hm... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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