Flashermac Posted September 9, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 9, 2007 Personal freedom is very important to Westerners. Islam means total submission to God. Even Christians don't go that far. Capitalism isn't perfect but it works. Osama doesn't understand Western thinking. He would be much further ahead if he said...'you leave us alone with our beliefs and we'll leave you alone with yours.' Islam also means not questioning the faith. I have friends who majored in theology in the US. They tell me most of their classmates were agnostics. They study comparative religion for insights into ancient thinking; view religion for its philosophy and psychology; analyse the Bible to see if it is consistent etc. e.g. They take the alleged words of Jesus in the Bible and compare them, breaking them down into 3 groups: those Jesus probably said, those Jesus may have said, and those which are contrary to Jewish thinking of the time and are almost certainly later additions reflecting Greek thinking. Theology in the west is an academic discipline. In Islam theology means memorizing the Qu'ran verbatim, possibly with some attention to the Hadith. One does not question; one BELIEVES. Thus it is very difficult for east and west to understand each other's religious thinking, which is a big part of the problem. Maybe it takes someone like a Lebanese or Syrian Christian to understand both sides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuckwoww Posted September 9, 2007 Report Share Posted September 9, 2007 I don't know who's giving Bin Laden advice but all that scary talk actually helps Bush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashermac Posted September 9, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 9, 2007 Osama always seems to show up at times it helps Bush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torneyboy Posted September 9, 2007 Report Share Posted September 9, 2007 He needs all the help he can get .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.. Posted September 9, 2007 Report Share Posted September 9, 2007 Osama always seems to show up at times it helps Bush. My point exactly. The War on Terra is just bullshit; a strategy to make the rich richer and keep the rest of us from questioning anything. Cheers, SD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bust Posted September 9, 2007 Report Share Posted September 9, 2007 The thing I found amusing during APEC was that Bush spoke more about the "War on Terror" than anything related to economics. I wonder if the Osama tape was raised to help boost moral for his "Good Friend" John Howard? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashermac Posted September 9, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 9, 2007 << The War on Terra >> The Martians are attacking again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.. Posted September 9, 2007 Report Share Posted September 9, 2007 << The War on Terra >> The Martians are attacking again! I'm sure they "would be" if Halliburton could find a way to make money off of it... Regards, SD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashermac Posted September 9, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 9, 2007 They're really the "Greys", aren't they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Munchmaster Posted September 9, 2007 Report Share Posted September 9, 2007 Sure there is a lot that is not great about US Democracy, and there are some things that are down right yucky. But I hold by my opinion. I can't answer what is best because that is a very subjective question. You would have to know what each of you would site as an example of "what makes something the best." An I bet none of us can agree to that. Is it money? Or power? Or is it national pride or the crime rate? So much could go into "What is best" that the word itself looses meaning from one person to another. And why many can never agree to "what is best" even among a football league. What a load of waffle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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