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Originally posted by flyonzewall:

c'mon, good thai girl, that is utter bullshit, i expected more of you. a line like that is racist and invites only further racism.

I'm just being realistic. I don't think I would understand your farang psychic if I would have spent 30years living in a farangland. So I expect the same vice versa.

Sorry about the indiscretion your wife got from those farangs. I, too, sometimes got those sparkling eyes when they'd learned I came from Bangkok !

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Originally posted by rictic:

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I knew you were going to react like that. Thats why I put it in. You have no sense of humour 8>]

Was he really fat, not all of them are.[/QB]

No, this is not an issue to be joking around. In fact, she is not "pretty" at all. Shit ,that guy must be drunk or something.

Yes, he was FAT !!

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asia all together 13 and a half years, living in thailand 8 and a half years, i'm 33 years old.

no urge to move back to europe. once or twice a year i go there for a few weeks, visit family and friends all over there. i have usually a great time and am happy when i come back here.

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Hey guys,

Good Thai Girl has some rather apt points.

Perhaps the way to gauge her comments is to look at it from her aspect.....and in that I see some accurate views.

Hey Good Thai Girl , the guys also have a pointer or two.....just to make you appreciate another view point.

Now lets move on with the subject matter...?

See ya,

Kiwi.

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Hmmm. Good Thai Girl said she was accosted away from the bars in Pattaya. LIE. There is no place away from bars in Pattaya. LOLs.

My friends thai lady friend was driving home one day with her 11 yo daughter on the motorbike with her. Not dressed provocatively, noontime, broad daylight. Farang comes up to her in the street and wants to rent her daughter.

I agree that some guys get here and think every thai woman is on the game. This is rude.

Look, I for one think Thaksin is going about this all wrong, and cares not one whit for the poor thais. There is zero "trickle down" of money from the "mainstream" tourists. Nothing compared to the money bgs earn and send home. This is about power and money for him. But, if he wanted to do a better job of zoning and enforcement of zoning that wouldn't be a bad thing. Then, if you see a lady walking on Soi Yotsak any time of day, you pretty much know she is working.

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Originally posted by Good Thai Girl:

What do you mean???

You don't believe that I am really Thai?

Tell me one good reason.

 

Really, I think you should convince *me* you are Thai....

-- but ok, here's a couple of reasons why *I* don't belive your origin of birth:

** the notion of "troll" is (as far as I know) only known among experienced members of "sanuk boards"..but you've used in it's correct meaning immediately on this board.

** your choosen name on the board. It reminds me of 'trolls/nice-regular-but-shy-farang-men/sex-hungry-farang/somewhat-good-men' choosing 'Farang Jai Dee' on BangkokChat, etc...

** your use of English words, which shows off an exposure for that particular language during a long, long time -- longer than is possibly when living in Thailand ***AND/OR*** studying abroad (I think I know because of A) my own native language is not English and B) I've studied quite some time with 'good' Thai students, post gracduate level at a U.S. university...

... plus I've spent reasonable time in Thailand [granted I've not seen too many well educated Thai girls of the 'good kind' -- but the ones of the 'good kind' I've seen, are ***two or three zillion*** light years away from your level of English -- that's included the Thai students at the U.S. law school, that I personally know of & that now have top jobs in Bangkok with no-time-what-so-ever chatting on internet).

** you have never released any personal information about yourself on this board that could be "verified"...or at least questioned in any way...i.e. background/work/studies, etc...plus, the topics you've participated in are of a controversial matter (i.e. with this kind of response: "Hello, I am a normal Thai girl...but I would like to show up in the worst porno district possible in Bangkok [read Nana] just to meet the men that I've read soooooooo many posts about here....and I think this....blah blah...but of course...when you say this, that's what I tried to say ALL of THE TIME...and I agree...but what about this....blah, blah, "utter bullshit-very-political-correct-that-could-only-be-spoken-by-a-Western-person")

Sure, I am an open minded person and if I'm wrong about your birth of origin....no problem....my apologies....on the other hand, I don't have anything to prove here...I am not trying to be anything else than most members of this board, i.e. one out of million farang men with a great liking for Thai girls.

Pay for play, or not...in my case I would rather not -- but that's a whole different story...

Your turn now.

Straycat

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Good Thai Girl has some valid points -whether we agree with all of them or not.

We should remember that despite appearances, the Thai society is a conservative society. Although the Thais have a sex scene, it is behind closed (brothel) doors and out of sight.

The problem with the farang scene, from a Thai point of view, is that we are so out in the open. That's OK as long as we are in Cowboy, the Pong, etc. But a 50 year old, over weight white guy pawing or even holding the hand of a 20 something Thai girl on the Skytrain is offensive to the mainstream Thai culture - and the mainstream Western culture as well.

Most BGs will moderate their behavior away from the scene. Most punters should as well. In the long run, it will be better for all of us.

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Originally posted by Good Thai Girl:

Raven,

You are absolutely right. Have seen many middle classed farang families with teen aged kids looking fat farangs fondles bgs in a broad day light in pattaya and bkk. I'm not surprised if they would never come back for vacation in Thailand again.

And what's about the touts pestering everybody, (single males as well as families) asking them: 'You want see fuckshow?'

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Middle classed families are the major target group for the tourism for sure.

You- sex tourists/maniacs please understand our situation and please behave yourselves a bit-just for the sake of being "civilised", OK?


Common get real, Pattaya has the worst and most polluted beach I have ever seen. The whole place consists of bars and cheap hotels. In order to attract 'normal' tourists, the whole town must be rebuild, but even then the image of Pattaya will remain for years and the beach isn't great.

BTW you are slandering about us Westerners going with BGs and f**king around.

I can't speak for the tourists, but I know many guys working here for years, who really would prefer normal relationships, but they can't because your society doesn't accept a Farang/Isaan relationship. Its the Thai upperclass, especially the Thai Chinese, society, who is very racist. They look down on every 'normal' girl being engaged with a Westerner and on every Westerner being engaged with an Isaan Girl. For them these girls are third class. Often they told me: 'Use them, f**k them and throw them away, but never start a relationship'

So please don't blame us alone. At the end we are only following the rules of YOUR society.

[ January 01, 2002: Message edited by: Hardy641 ]

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