Steve Posted August 5, 2008 Report Share Posted August 5, 2008 There is no line. That IS the point. Which could be illegal or unconstitutional if it involves U.S. citizens (or even if it doesn't probably). When you land you are on U.S. soil. Their rights don't start once they leave customs. There are a great many things that the government did or does that was later found to be illegal or unconstitutional and a violation of our civil liberties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogueyam Posted August 5, 2008 Report Share Posted August 5, 2008 There is no line. That IS the point. Which could be illegal or unconstitutional if it involves U.S. citizens (or even if it doesn't probably). When you land you are on U.S. soil. Their rights don't start once they leave customs. There are a great many things that the government did or does that was later found to be illegal or unconstitutional and a violation of our civil liberties. I'm glad I don't write like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted August 5, 2008 Report Share Posted August 5, 2008 Pentagon closes controversial intelligence unit CIFA's operations stirred concern among members of Congress and civil liberties advocates. A CIFA database known as Talon, set up to monitor threats against U.S. military installations, was found to have retained information on U.S. antiwar protesters including Quakers after they had been found to pose no security danger, officials said... ************************************************* What's the CIA doing spying on citizens...that's the FBI's job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted August 5, 2008 Report Share Posted August 5, 2008 There is no line. That IS the point. Which could be illegal or unconstitutional if it involves U.S. citizens (or even if it doesn't probably). When you land you are on U.S. soil. Their rights don't start once they leave customs. There are a great many things that the government did or does that was later found to be illegal or unconstitutional and a violation of our civil liberties. I'm glad I don't write like that. I'm glad I don't think like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chelseafan Posted August 5, 2008 Report Share Posted August 5, 2008 Just another reason not to visit the USA. But aren't the border search rules the same for the UK' date=' Australia, Japan, etc. [/quote'] Nope, neither in most European countries (I don't know about GB) nor in Japan electronic devices are confiscated *without any suspicion of wrongdoing*. I even don't know if any country except the USA has such laws. ... BBC Laptop Search This is scary, I have porn on my laptop, happy to admit it - what single guy doesnt? Nothing out of the ordinary, i.e no kids, dogs etc. So are they saying its illegal to bring porn into the country on your laptop? How does this contravene national law that allows me to buy porn from a shop or the internet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Hippie Posted August 5, 2008 Report Share Posted August 5, 2008 What I was told a few years agoi was, if You have porn, it is ok, as long as the porn in legal, as in "over 18." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dullnight Posted August 6, 2008 Report Share Posted August 6, 2008 3Well, I'm into that stuff so I would have a go.. I would use multiple layers of truecrypt and a file system that Windows couldn't see, but Linux could and use a Linux VM to mount it. I would also make the partition inactive so that it's existence wasn't evident to someone who wasn't examining the partition table. I would also add some dummy encrypted files to take up their resources and throw them off the scent. Ultimately, intelligence agencies with the processing power would get in, but not giving them reason to look is part of it.3 Thanks Barry for the info. It looks feasible but I really don't know how, even after rereading your post and would rather not spend 2 weeks on the internet researching the topic. Kamui was talking about a week end course,is it that easy ? I guess we'd need someone rather specialised to explain the issue or install the encryption, probably more qualified than the freelancers we use to fix more or less succesfully our computers. Any idea where(or who ) I should look for to have this system explained and preferably installed? Not looking for freebies here, which professionnals could we contact, preferably in BKK? Cheers Dullnight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kamui Posted August 6, 2008 Report Share Posted August 6, 2008 Kamui was talking about a week end course,is it that easy ? I guess we'd need someone rather specialised to explain the issue or install the encryption, probably more qualified than the freelancers we use to fix more or less succesfully our computers. Cheers Dullnight I seems that I was a little bit naive in regard to the problem of hiding encrypted files. The problem is, that not only the encrypted files must be hidden, but also the OS which you use for to work with the sensitive files. Otherwise you would leave many traces of the existence of hidden files in the OS (Windows index, Google search, e.g.). Therefore you will need to set up a second - hidden - OS which you use for to work with the sensitive data, and both the OS and the data will be encrypted and hidden after use. Zdnet explains how to do it: How to: Using TrueCrypt 6 to hide an operating system With this setup Truecrypt claims that _no one_ will be able to detect your hidden and encrypted data. Unfortunately this claim is disputed by an encryption and computer security specialist. See this article by Bruce Schneier. But even if this guy is right only computer forensic experts would be able to prove that you have hidden files on your PC. But of course this doesn't mean that they would be able to open the files without forcing you to hand out your passwords. PS: Having done some research about this topic now I thinking to buy a bigger HDD for my PC and to try to setup a secure system by myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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