rogueyam Posted August 3, 2008 Report Share Posted August 3, 2008 You can't hide contrabind in a file on your laptop. Again you fail, steve. Child pornography is contraband. So are a lot of other types of information. I hope for your sake that you're not trying very hard. Otherwise it's hopeless for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kamui Posted August 3, 2008 Report Share Posted August 3, 2008 Just another reason not to visit the USA. But aren't the border search rules the same for the UK' date=' Australia, Japan, etc. [/quote'] Nope, neither in most European countries (I don't know about GB) nor in Japan electronic devices are confiscated *without any suspicion of wrongdoing*. I even don't know if any country except the USA has such laws. This is probably the deepest intrusion into personal rights and privacy for travelers in modern history. If China or Russia would have such kind of law there would be an international outcry... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Hippie Posted August 3, 2008 Report Share Posted August 3, 2008 You can't hide contrabind in a file on your laptop. Again you fail' date=' steve. Child pornography is contraband. So are a lot of other types of information. I hope for your sake that you're not trying very hard. Otherwise it's hopeless for you.[/quote'] No, it is you who again "misunderstands." The facts are, buy all the encryption programs you want, if Law enforcement wants to see what is on that hard drive, they will. If you are "hiding" or attempting to hide something, it can and will be found given a good enough search. Should Law enforcement start a search, find encrypted files, locked files etc, they will then start to look even deeper, hence you really can't hide anything like kiddie porn or nuclear secrets etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogueyam Posted August 4, 2008 Report Share Posted August 4, 2008 Oh jeeze. Sometimes this board is like showing up to a hippie party after all of the electric Kool-Aid has been drunk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Hippie Posted August 4, 2008 Report Share Posted August 4, 2008 So either drink the kool aide, or leave the party. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogueyam Posted August 4, 2008 Report Share Posted August 4, 2008 So either drink the kool aide, or leave the party. But it's all gone! Shoot, this is the worst Jerry Day ever! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Hippie Posted August 4, 2008 Report Share Posted August 4, 2008 No worries, I'll swing by with a fresh jug! You're at 16th and Castro right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest lazyphil Posted August 4, 2008 Report Share Posted August 4, 2008 well kamui i cant se you going to amerika so no need to fret. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kamui Posted August 4, 2008 Report Share Posted August 4, 2008 well kamui i cant se you going to amerika so no need to fret. I go there 1-2 times a year for business and having my notebook confiscated would be a complete disaster. It could lead not only to reduced sales but also the reputation of our company would be severely damaged, since we would not have needed data at hand. My company notebook only contains business data, going to the US I am not arriving from suspect country (LOS for underage pics or Saudia Arabia for terrorism for example). But it is already documented that European business travellers have had there notebooks confiscated for no reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kamui Posted August 4, 2008 Report Share Posted August 4, 2008 You can't hide contrabind in a file on your laptop. Again you fail' date=' steve. Child pornography is contraband. So are a lot of other types of information. I hope for your sake that you're not trying very hard. Otherwise it's hopeless for you.[/quote'] No, it is you who again "misunderstands." The facts are, buy all the encryption programs you want, if Law enforcement wants to see what is on that hard drive, they will. If you are "hiding" or attempting to hide something, it can and will be found given a good enough search. Should Law enforcement start a search, find encrypted files, locked files etc, they will then start to look even deeper, hence you really can't hide anything like kiddie porn or nuclear secrets etc... I don't think that they will be able to decypt data with a really strong encryption - not officially anyway. Even if they would be able to do so they wouldn't use their knowledge, computer- and manpower for a casual traveller. The question is, if the US government is able to force an US citizen or a foreigner to disclose the passwords even without any suspicion of wrongdoing. If a border agent would take money out of your purse this would cause an outrage, but taking away a PC/iPhone e.g. it is probably much more costly and it is an intrusion into your privacy as deep as someone entering your home. I am surprised that the US public did not react stronger, since confiscating your PC or Smartphone might give the authorities complete knowledge about your business and your personal life, which they can store and use indefinitely. And of course, the people who are a real threat to society like those who produce and distribute underage porn or real terrorists don't have any data on the carry on devices. Recently police busted a child porn ring (using an insider) and they were surprised about the high level security measures this group used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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