samak Posted November 21, 2008 Report Share Posted November 21, 2008 anybody knows, when Hyundai will introduce their Genesis in the Thai market? have seen it in Bangkok Post months ago but still nothing to see on Hyundai's thai website! or what would you recommend as alternative if it is still not available? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashermac Posted November 21, 2008 Report Share Posted November 21, 2008 Maybe GM will have to fire all the workers, so they can pay the top executives bonuses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest lazyphil Posted November 21, 2008 Report Share Posted November 21, 2008 a transam firebird you pillock! (6.6 litre :content: ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USVirgin Posted November 21, 2008 Report Share Posted November 21, 2008 So...because of high costs we should continue to make nothing but trucks and SUVs? The Japanese have been kicking our butts for decades with economy cars (seems to me we waved the white flag there a long, long time ago) and now they're right up there with the Germans in luxury cars and what have we got? The Escalade? I'm all for saving the industry, but I think Detroit has been force feeding us a load of crap products for as far as I can remember. If they built a product that would justify subsidization, and that IS the market speaking, then maybe the execs would be better understood on Capitol Hill. PS. Can you tell me why ALL television pick-up truck ads (US and foreign) ALWAYS have deep, deep voice-overs? Bothers the fuck out of me. I'd like to hear, for once, a gay voice doing a truck commercial. But seriously, my experience of the US auto industry is the advertising I see, and that is why I think their efforts have been misdirected for a long time by ignoring the competition and focusing only on what they do best rather than competing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.. Posted November 21, 2008 Report Share Posted November 21, 2008 I'm just saying that people are buying what they want. There is plenty of capacity for small cars, but people buy the trucks, so that's what Detroit makes. Free-marketeers should be cheering (of course, we won't talk about the GOP tax rebate for buyers of trucks -- why not small cars instead?). The issue is not sales. It is US policies for the past thirty+ years that are making our companies uncompetitive. We as a country need to decide NOW what to do about it. This is a lot bigger than the auto industry. But the auto industry employs 10% of the middle class workforce. Do you really think that any country could absorb that kind of job loss? Cheers, SD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USVirgin Posted November 21, 2008 Report Share Posted November 21, 2008 For the most part, people buy Toyotas and Hondas, and that's not what Detroit makes. I think that's the problem. I do understand the competitive disadvantages in as much as the airlines have similar problems. And I don't want to see the job loss, but if we can't produce the product and don't even try, why sustain the industry? Edit: BTW, as you know, foreign companies assemble cars in the US to reduce costs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Munchmaster Posted November 21, 2008 Report Share Posted November 21, 2008 Pontiac Firefly, 1.3L.........you pillock! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest lazyphil Posted November 21, 2008 Report Share Posted November 21, 2008 oops, my mistake, yes, very woosey! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.. Posted November 21, 2008 Report Share Posted November 21, 2008 Except they don't all buy Toyotas. Recall what I mentioned as the best selling vehicles over the past 30 years were, by a huge margin? Only up to 2004, but you can see what I mean: http://www.econstats.com/autos/wauto_a.htm Even Chrysler outsold Toyota in the US 2004, with GM more than doubling their sales. Cheers, SD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USVirgin Posted November 21, 2008 Report Share Posted November 21, 2008 Pillock would be a good name for an American car marketed in Britain. The Pontiac Pillock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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